Eco footprint always decaying to neutral

This pack isn't worth buying if they don't fix this. This was supposed to be a major feature for this pack, and I was looking forward to it. It appears to be broken. For $40, I shouldn't have to use mods to fix it.
This and NAPS are very disappointing. I hope they're reading these comments and addressing the issues.

Yeah, this decay is happening in my game too. I'm playing Rags to Riches off the grid style and wanted my Sim to create a green environment. After I first bought the game, I didn't notice the decay. In my game, the decay seemed to happen after the 2nd patch....and very quickly. My Sim got it green and then it went to neutral in 2 Sim days. So I got a mod, changed eco footrpint to green and it still went to neutral in 2 sim days.

It's very annoying and it seems that either spectrum....green or industrial is pulling it back towards neutral. I hope they fix this ASAP. As someone has already pointed out....game doesn't seem worth it, if eco footprint and NAPs isn't working...

I would love to see a way of composting all the leaves the sims rake too as this would surely help with staying in the green eco wise.

In order for your neighborhood to remain Green you need to ensure all the surrounding lots are green. I took the time to make each lot green by changing all wallpaper & flooring to eco friendly as well as adding trees and shrubs to each lot. I discovered that if you have 3/4 of the lots green, you can maintain a Green environment.

It also helps to take any fireplaces or BBQs off NPC lots and upgrade the NPC household’s & community lots plumbing and electronics.

I've managed to get a neighbourhood to green but it changes after a day.

I'm having the same problem as well. My Sim went to a lot in San Myshuno and it turned industrial so I thought "Ah, great to see the system working!" as it was in the Spice District. I changed households and went to go play on the lot and see if I could worsen the industrial footprint and make it even more impactful. As soon as the loading screen went away and the new lot started, the industrial label disappeared and I can't get it back now.

Highly, highly frustrating. I bought the pack honestly for the clothing and decor more than anything, because let's be honest, the eco footprint system is FLAWED at best, painfully so. I would hope that EA would address this and potentially patch in a fix for this, but I really don't feel heard by them anymore...This coming from a longtime player. They do the same fan favorite packs and everything else feels of their own accord, regardless of the community votes. It's a big bummer but I've been playing this game since I was in first grade and I am 26 this year so, I feel a sense of loyalty to them. I can, however, admit that there wasn't much positive to say in regards to this new environment.


Ya know, how is it possible that an EP *BE* garbage because it doesn't give us *enough* garbage??? :p

"EnkiSchmidt;c-17558171" wrote:
I have the weird case of being able to reach industrial footprint through gameplay and mainaining it, but being unable to achieve eco footprint.

All four lots in the Willow Creek neighborhood where the Goths used to live show up as having green footprint, but the neighborhood won't turn green. Also the park that used to be green and sparkle reverted to neutral.

I use @elelunicy 's script that displays footprint values and they are as follows: Each individual lot -500 (the minimum value), neighborhood convergence point also -500 (if I understood this correctly this stat represents the max. potential of a neighborhood), neighborhood footprint -88,59... That last value won't change, no matter what I do. I also have Scarlet's No Decay mod in my game, but the description states it only stops decay, while allowing for normal footprint change through gameplay.

Meanwhile my polluted Del Sol Valley neighborhood stayed industrial through several ingame weeks now. And that one has only two industrial lots, the third is neutral.

Normally the neighborhood footprint value will slowly “decay” until it reaches the convergence point (in your case it will go from -88 to -500). Since you have the no decay mod, it will be frozen at -88.

@ScarletQueenKat 's no decay mod is only good for people who cheat the eco footprint state, as it will stay in the state you cheated afterwards. For people who play normally, it will prevent you from changing the neighborhood footprint through gameplay.

@ScarletQueenKat may need to know that EcoFootprint_Street does not decay to 0. Instead, it decays to a convergence point dynamically calculated from averaging every lot’s EcoFootprint_Lot value in a neighborhood.

"elelunicy;c-17558226" wrote:

"EnkiSchmidt;c-17558171" wrote:
I have the weird case of being able to reach industrial footprint through gameplay and mainaining it, but being unable to achieve eco footprint.

All four lots in the Willow Creek neighborhood where the Goths used to live show up as having green footprint, but the neighborhood won't turn green. Also the park that used to be green and sparkle reverted to neutral.

I use @elelunicy 's script that displays footprint values and they are as follows: Each individual lot -500 (the minimum value), neighborhood convergence point also -500 (if I understood this correctly this stat represents the max. potential of a neighborhood), neighborhood footprint -88,59... That last value won't change, no matter what I do. I also have Scarlet's No Decay mod in my game, but the description states it only stops decay, while allowing for normal footprint change through gameplay.

Meanwhile my polluted Del Sol Valley neighborhood stayed industrial through several ingame weeks now. And that one has only two industrial lots, the third is neutral.

Normally the neighborhood footprint value will slowly “decay” until it reaches the convergence point (in your case it will go from -88 to -500). Since you have the no decay mod, it will be frozen at -88.

@ScarletQueenKat 's no decay mod is only good for people who cheat the eco footprint state, as it will stay in the state you cheated afterwards. For people who play normally, it will prevent you from changing the neighborhood footprint through gameplay.

Thank you for clearing this up! Seems I misunderstood what the mod does. I assumed "decay" meant that the value would steadily go towards zero from both ends of the scale, because so many simmers reported that their footprint always becomes neutral again. But in truth it goes towards the convergence point? Sorry for sounding dumb, but english isn't my native language and this is one of the situations where it shows, lol.

"elelunicy;c-17558226" wrote:

"EnkiSchmidt;c-17558171" wrote:
I have the weird case of being able to reach industrial footprint through gameplay and mainaining it, but being unable to achieve eco footprint.

All four lots in the Willow Creek neighborhood where the Goths used to live show up as having green footprint, but the neighborhood won't turn green. Also the park that used to be green and sparkle reverted to neutral.

I use @elelunicy 's script that displays footprint values and they are as follows: Each individual lot -500 (the minimum value), neighborhood convergence point also -500 (if I understood this correctly this stat represents the max. potential of a neighborhood), neighborhood footprint -88,59... That last value won't change, no matter what I do. I also have Scarlet's No Decay mod in my game, but the description states it only stops decay, while allowing for normal footprint change through gameplay.

Meanwhile my polluted Del Sol Valley neighborhood stayed industrial through several ingame weeks now. And that one has only two industrial lots, the third is neutral.

Normally the neighborhood footprint value will slowly “decay” until it reaches the convergence point (in your case it will go from -88 to -500). Since you have the no decay mod, it will be frozen at -88.

@ScarletQueenKat 's no decay mod is only good for people who cheat the eco footprint state, as it will stay in the state you cheated afterwards. For people who play normally, it will prevent you from changing the neighborhood footprint through gameplay.

@ScarletQueenKat may need to know that EcoFootprint_Street does not decay to 0. Instead, it decays to a convergence point dynamically calculated from averaging every lot’s EcoFootprint_Lot value in a neighborhood.

Actually, my testers were able to get the footprint changed with the mod. I specifically asked my testers to test that, they claimed it was fine. Also, if you're going to tag me, please talk to me instead of about me, I'd appreciate it more.

I do know that it doesn't decay to 0. I changed the decay rate for both of them. I will however look into fixing the issue of not being able to change it through gameplay (assuming this isn't an EA issue), so thank you for letting me know.