Is anyone else excited about the LGBT Pride content coming this month?

@Dannydanbo I get your overall sentiment, which is why I said I would reserve my excitement for the content until I knew what it was, but where did they say that these additions would be representative of the entirety of gay culture?

"Horrorgirl6;c-17106382" wrote:

"bunny-gypsy;c-17106222" wrote:
I’m LGBT, but I’m not excited to have the flags or graphic-printed t-shirts. I don’t want Pride-branded-graphics stuff.

I'm going to be truthful.This whole thing to me is pointless.We already can make gay,and lesbians sims.You can even make your sim transgender if you want too.We already represented .So what's the point of this ?The gender-neutral bathroom is also so dumb. Gender netutrual bathrooms are not lgbt .They just mean both genders can go in to them.I hardly see them around in real life in the midwest.They are usually are at potter poties, or single public bathrooms..Im bisexual its just what I'm attracted too.Its not a big hurraw,and it's nothing to celebrate.

While I agree for the most part, I do feel the celebrations themselves (in real life) are important. Having positive affirmations and positive role models would help many of us who still feel bad about ourselves, who are still closeted and surrounded by people and politics who don’t like us for who we are, etc.

In the old days, they would kill you for being gay. So we made a lot of progress. But we still have a long, long way to go for homophobia (in some areas, gay people are still being bullied, targeted, beaten up and killed), transphobia (and in real life, trans people are still being targeted, beaten up, and killed), sexism, racism, and ableism.

The United States still has a long way to go before everyone can just not care about celebrating ourselves.

Now, for the sims games. Well, they’re already pretty equal, so the only reason for Pride objects is to have the graphics of the flag there. It should have been an optional addition, as not everyone wants graphics-items to add to their game and taking up space. I wish this was like the Christmas pack, where it’s optional.

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> I’m LGBT, but I’m not excited to have the flags or graphic-printed t-shirts. I don’t want Pride-branded-graphics stuff.
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> I'm going to be truthful.This whole thing to me is pointless.We already can make gay,and lesbians sims.You can even make your sim transgender if you want too.We already represented .So what's the point of this ?The gender-neutral bathroom is also so dumb. Gender netutrual bathrooms are not lgbt .They just mean both genders can go in to them.I hardly see them around in real life in the midwest.They are usually are at potter poties, or single public bathrooms..Im bisexual its just what I'm attracted too.Its not a big hurraw,and it's nothing to celebrate.
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> While I agree for the most part, I do feel the celebrations themselves (in real life) are important. Having positive affirmations and positive role models would help many of us who still feel bad about ourselves, who are still closeted and surrounded by people and politics who don’t like us for who we are, etc.
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> In the old days, they would kill you for being gay. So we made a lot of progress. But we still have a long, long way to go for homophobia (in some areas, gay people are still being bullied, targeted, beaten up and killed), transphobia (and in real life, trans people are still being targeted, beaten up, and killed), sexism, racism, and ableism.
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> Now, for the sims games. Well, they’re already pretty equal, so the only reason for Pride objects is to have the graphics of the flag there. It should have been an optional addition, as not everyone wants graphics-items to add to their game and taking up space. I wish this was like the Christmas pack, where it’s optional.

It's not even just "the old days." Pulse was, what, two years ago? Matthew Shephard was in my lifetime. Most of us still have living relatives who were around during Stonewall.

As Faulkner said, "The past is never dead. It's not even past."

It's fine if some people don't find meaning in Pride events or symbolism-- and certainly like any other holiday it has become commercialized. But to a lot of people, it does still mean something: a chance for a community to come together and feel joy in a world that is still all-too quick to suppress that joy, sometimes violently. Some people find the rainbow symbolism silly or trivial; but for others, it evokes a deep emotional response. To each their own, but there's no need to put down people who do find meaning in it.

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> To each their own, but there's no need to put down people who do find meaning in it.

Just wanted to be clear here that this sentence was not directed at you, @bunny-gypsy; I know you weren't putting anyone down. I meant some of the others in this thread.

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> If you can tell me how a gender neutral bathroom door will "encourage" gay youths to be proud of who they are, then you are far smarter than me. "So, you're a young, newly out gay person. Here, use this gender neutral bathroom door and feel all the encouragement it gives you to be yourself." Seriously?


I'm not a dev, nor am I trans, so I don't want to speak for anyone, but I think it's pretty clear that this particular item is intended to show support for the trans part of the community more so than those who are gay. (Not, of course, that those are mutually exclusive; obviously people can be either, or both.) Of course gendered bathrooms have nothing to do with being gay, but they do have something to do with gender identity.

"Dannydanbo;c-17106413" wrote:

"Netzspannung;c-17106384" wrote:
@Dannydanbo I get your overall sentiment, which is why I said I would reserve my excitement for the content until I knew what it was, but where did they say that these additions would be representative of the entirety of gay culture?

I found this on the SimsVIP site:

The Sims is proud to celebrate the LGBTQ+ community with a new partnership with the It Gets Better Project, a non-profit organization and global movement to provide hope and encouragement to LGBTQ+ youth. Beginning on June 18th, players will be able to access exclusive It Gets Better and pride in-game clothing in The Sims 4 on PC, The Sims FreePlay and The Sims Mobile, as well as a variety of pride items, including a gender-neutral bathroom door in The Sims 4. Look for this content to come to The Sims 4 on consoles in July.

If you can tell me how a gender neutral bathroom door will "encourage" gay youths to be proud of who they are, then you are far smarter than me. "So, you're a young, newly out gay person. Here, use this gender neutral bathroom door and feel all the encouragement it gives you to be yourself." Seriously?

And I'm still waiting for a guru/dev to explain this bull to me and, just so you know, I'll not stop until I get an explanation. So circle your wagons, gird your loins and come up with something that you can explain that will pass as a half decent reason for this insult.

Ok, so no one claimed the items they're adding are representative of the entirety of gay culture. I was only asking a question and I am not claiming to be smarter than anyone. And I am truly sorry that you apparently expected more from this free update and feel disrespected. Hope you'll get your questions answered.

"Jasper7702;c-17106374" wrote:
Lowkey. I would love some new recipes and drinks!

Not gonna lie, a rainbow cake would be sick.

@EA_Mai I think this thread needs to be locked (again).

....this is why we can't have nice things. :#

however low i feel about the current quality of this franchise, i have always been grateful that it started from the beginning with LGBTQ inclusivity.