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SimmerGeorge
5 years ago

Is this false advertising?

https://i.imgur.com/QPunCz7.jpg

Not just the create a world part, because it can mean: delete the lots on the pre-existing worlds to kind of make your own version of it. It's the paddock full of unicorns thing that's super inaccurate.

EDIT!: Oh guys no, sorry I just realized they tried to evade the whole "false advertising" thing by removing the 4 from "The Sims" in the title. I just noticed! The logo, cover art etc. are all the same as the Sims 4 but since this can only be done in the Sims 3 they just didn't clarify which game they are talking about.

You have to be really really careful when seeing this advertisement because though it is in itself supposed to advertise the Sims series as a whole, it focuses on using the Sims 4 as the cover while naming features from previous games.
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  • LiELF's avatar
    LiELF
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    5 years ago
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    The neutrality is interesting, though. All of these years of pushing Sims 4 and now suddenly they're pushing the series as a whole? It might make sense if we were able to play Sims 1 and 2 without troubleshooting Windows. My first instinct is that it's disingenuous. They also have other ads that advertise living underwater. It's like instead of making these things possible in Sims 4, they're looking at what Sims 3 could do and promoting that but just removing the "4" to insinuate these are things you can play in the current game.

    I feel like it's misleading, even though Sims 3 is still available. It could make someone look up The Sims, most likely come across Sims 4 (which is usually pretty inexpensive and at the forefront of their marketing,) then they buy it, thinking these are things they can do in the game, only to find out they can't, that they'd have to go buy the older iteration to get the actual gameplay advertised. And even then, you still can't play the way they insinuate in the ads.

    That kind of misdirection is rather shady, EA. Gross.
  • TriplisTrip's avatar
    TriplisTrip
    5 years ago
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    Given the image is the sims 4 logo, I would say it absolutely should be considered false advertising. I'm not a lawyer and have no idea if it would actually pass muster in court if claimed as such, but given that the image is associated with buying the sims 4 and there is no disclaimer in it, it seems like a problem to me. It would be extremely easy for someone who has seen the sims 4 logo before to assume it means the sims 4 when it doesn't.

    If it's not illegal, it should be and frankly, I'm kind of disgusted with the whole affair (relating to this and the other thread about the video ads) that the best they can do to represent their game(s) is to mislead people. If they can't draw people in with actual content that exists in the game(s) years and years of added content and updates in, that just makes me wonder why I'm even playing their game in the first place. In other words, I feel like in a sense it validates all of the complaining about the game because it makes it look like the game has nothing interesting to offer on its own merits. So it's a kind of self-own of their own product.
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    Admiral8Q
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    5 years ago
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    "Triplis;c-17747977" wrote:
    Given the image is the sims 4 logo, I would say it absolutely should be considered false advertising.


    This statement alone I agree with.
  • Babykittyjade's avatar
    Babykittyjade
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    Lol all I can hope is that this is a BIG hint?? because otherwise...? I do find it weird they push so hard to advertise stuff not in the game when we have all these packs they can advertise from.....

    They maybe generally talking about the franchise but sims 4 is the picture so....
  • Admiral8Q's avatar
    Admiral8Q
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    "Admiral8Q;c-17748011" wrote:
    "Triplis;c-17747977" wrote:
    Given the image is the sims 4 logo, I would say it absolutely should be considered false advertising.


    This statement alone I agree with.


    Actually, after quick research, I stand corrected. This is an official EA advertisement.

    Probably a version of "Sims 5" where it's the same but completely different. :p
    Makes sense since Sims 4 probably is the last final of what we know for the Sims. After this it will be apps for your phone.

    https://www.ea.com/games/the-sims/live-the-sims-life
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    fruitsbasket100
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    "Admiral8Q;c-17748028" wrote:
    "Admiral8Q;c-17748011" wrote:
    "Triplis;c-17747977" wrote:
    Given the image is the sims 4 logo, I would say it absolutely should be considered false advertising.


    This statement alone I agree with.


    Actually, after quick research, I stand corrected. This is an official EA advertisement.

    Probably a version of "Sims 5" where it's the same but completely different. :p
    Makes sense since Sims 4 probably is the last final of what we know for the Sims. After this it will be apps for your phone.

    https://www.ea.com/games/the-sims/live-the-sims-life


    Yeah i'm starting to get the vibes that ts4 may be the last in the series and they are using these ads to promote the franchise as a whole for the last hurrah. If this isn't the case then those ads are pretty shady, at least to me they are.
  • imahulazombie's avatar
    imahulazombie
    5 years ago
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    so the sims 4 was on beta confirmed and now they're finally "launching" it?
    or it's just marketing for the whole franchise?
    man it would be so sad if this was the last sims game, but at the same time it's probably better this way
  • LiELF's avatar
    LiELF
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    5 years ago
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    I'm thinking now that it looks like they are probably looking to reboot the franchise, which is a way too common thing in entertainment. Sims 4 will become The Sims (1) and the previous games will get erased and forgotten, never to be compared again. Then the franchise will go in a whole new direction, doing whatever EA wants to do with their trend simulator, hiring new "innovative" devs who've never known what the original Sims was. Then they'll be rid of the higher standards of quality of the previous games.

    And, unfortunately, this is becoming standard practice in related businesses. Take a blockbuster or bestseller and remake it, start it all over for a new generation, and change whatever doesn't fit the modern trends of the time, treading all over the original material.

    Ugh. I hope I'm just being melodramatic and it means nothing, just silly marketing.

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EDIT!: Oh guys no, sorry I just realized they tried to evade the whole \"false advertising\" thing by removing the 4 from \"The Sims\" in the title. I just noticed! The logo, cover art etc. are all the same as the Sims 4 but since this can only be done in the Sims 3 they just didn't clarify which game they are talking about.

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Not just the create a world part, because it can mean: delete the lots on the pre-existing worlds to kind of make your own version of it. It's the paddock full of unicorns thing that's super inaccurate.

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All of these years of pushing Sims 4 and now suddenly they're pushing the series as a whole? It might make sense if we were able to play Sims 1 and 2 without troubleshooting Windows. My first instinct is that it's disingenuous. They also have other ads that advertise living underwater. It's like instead of making these things possible in Sims 4, they're looking at what Sims 3 could do and promoting that but just removing the \"4\" to insinuate these are things you can play in the current game.

I feel like it's misleading, even though Sims 3 is still available. It could make someone look up The Sims, most likely come across Sims 4 (which is usually pretty inexpensive and at the forefront of their marketing,) then they buy it, thinking these are things they can do in the game, only to find out they can't, that they'd have to go buy the older iteration to get the actual gameplay advertised. And even then, you still can't play the way they insinuate in the ads.

That kind of misdirection is rather shady, EA. Gross.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2020-12-11T13:23:52.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-12-11T13:23:52.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":2},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:the-sims-4-en/category:the-sims-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en/message:1433506/message:1433517","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1086","rawBody":"The neutrality is interesting, though. All of these years of pushing Sims 4 and now suddenly they're pushing the series as a whole? It might make sense if we were able to play Sims 1 and 2 without troubleshooting Windows. My first instinct is that it's disingenuous. They also have other ads that advertise living underwater. It's like instead of making these things possible in Sims 4, they're looking at what Sims 3 could do and promoting that but just removing the \"4\" to insinuate these are things you can play in the current game.

I feel like it's misleading, even though Sims 3 is still available. It could make someone look up The Sims, most likely come across Sims 4 (which is usually pretty inexpensive and at the forefront of their marketing,) then they buy it, thinking these are things they can do in the game, only to find out they can't, that they'd have to go buy the older iteration to get the actual gameplay advertised. And even then, you still can't play the way they insinuate in the ads.

That kind of misdirection is rather shady, EA. 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\"Colton147147;c-17747938\" wrote:
Toddlers riding unicorns confirmed.


I would SO buy that pack.

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\"Colton147147;c-17747938\" wrote:
Toddlers riding unicorns confirmed.


I would SO buy that pack.

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If it's not illegal, it should be and frankly, I'm kind of disgusted with the whole affair (relating to this and the other thread about the video ads) that the best they can do to represent their game(s) is to mislead people. If they can't draw people in with actual content that exists in the game(s) years and years of added content and updates in, that just makes me wonder why I'm even playing their game in the first place. In other words, I feel like in a sense it validates all of the complaining about the game because it makes it look like the game has nothing interesting to offer on its own merits. So it's a kind of self-own of their own product.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2020-12-11T13:46:57.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-12-11T13:46:57.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:the-sims-4-en/category:the-sims-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en/message:1433506/message:1433520","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1117","rawBody":"Given the image is the sims 4 logo, I would say it absolutely should be considered false advertising. I'm not a lawyer and have no idea if it would actually pass muster in court if claimed as such, but given that the image is associated with buying the sims 4 and there is no disclaimer in it, it seems like a problem to me. It would be extremely easy for someone who has seen the sims 4 logo before to assume it means the sims 4 when it doesn't.

If it's not illegal, it should be and frankly, I'm kind of disgusted with the whole affair (relating to this and the other thread about the video ads) that the best they can do to represent their game(s) is to mislead people. If they can't draw people in with actual content that exists in the game(s) years and years of added content and updates in, that just makes me wonder why I'm even playing their game in the first place. In other words, I feel like in a sense it validates all of the complaining about the game because it makes it look like the game has nothing interesting to offer on its own merits. So it's a kind of self-own of their own product.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1433520_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:17609":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:17609","uid":17609,"login":"Admiral8Q","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2019-11-03T02:58:10.142-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-7.svg?time=1721239606000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:13"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:17609"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1433521":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1433521","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1433521":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:17609"},"id":"message:1433521","revisionNum":1,"uid":1433521,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1433506"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1433506"},"subject":"Re: Is this false advertising?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1433521"},"body":"
\"Triplis;c-17747977\" wrote:
Given the image is the sims 4 logo, I would say it absolutely should be considered false advertising.


This statement alone I agree with.
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\"Triplis;c-17747977\" wrote:
Given the image is the sims 4 logo, I would say it absolutely should be considered false advertising.


This statement alone I agree with.
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They maybe generally talking about the franchise but sims 4 is the picture so....","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2020-12-11T14:05:40.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-12-11T14:05:40.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:the-sims-4-en/category:the-sims-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en/message:1433506/message:1433522","repliesCount":0,"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"292","rawBody":"Lol all I can hope is that this is a BIG hint?? because otherwise...? I do find it weird they push so hard to advertise stuff not in the game when we have all these packs they can advertise from.....

They maybe generally talking about the franchise but sims 4 is the picture so....","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1433522_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1433523":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1433523","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1433523":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:17609"},"id":"message:1433523","revisionNum":1,"uid":1433523,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1433506"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1433506"},"subject":"Re: Is this false advertising?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1433523"},"body":"
\"Admiral8Q;c-17748011\" wrote:
\"Triplis;c-17747977\" wrote:
Given the image is the sims 4 logo, I would say it absolutely should be considered false advertising.


This statement alone I agree with.


Actually, after quick research, I stand corrected. This is an official EA advertisement.

Probably a version of \"Sims 5\" where it's the same but completely different. :p
Makes sense since Sims 4 probably is the last final of what we know for the Sims. After this it will be apps for your phone.

https://www.ea.com/games/the-sims/live-the-sims-life","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2020-12-11T14:06:12.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-12-11T14:06:12.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:the-sims-4-en/category:the-sims-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en/message:1433506/message:1433523","repliesCount":0,"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"658","rawBody":"
\"Admiral8Q;c-17748011\" wrote:
\"Triplis;c-17747977\" wrote:
Given the image is the sims 4 logo, I would say it absolutely should be considered false advertising.


This statement alone I agree with.


Actually, after quick research, I stand corrected. This is an official EA advertisement.

Probably a version of \"Sims 5\" where it's the same but completely different. :p
Makes sense since Sims 4 probably is the last final of what we know for the Sims. After this it will be apps for your phone.

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\"Admiral8Q;c-17748028\" wrote:
\"Admiral8Q;c-17748011\" wrote:
\"Triplis;c-17747977\" wrote:
Given the image is the sims 4 logo, I would say it absolutely should be considered false advertising.


This statement alone I agree with.


Actually, after quick research, I stand corrected. This is an official EA advertisement.

Probably a version of \"Sims 5\" where it's the same but completely different. :p
Makes sense since Sims 4 probably is the last final of what we know for the Sims. After this it will be apps for your phone.

https://www.ea.com/games/the-sims/live-the-sims-life


Yeah i'm starting to get the vibes that ts4 may be the last in the series and they are using these ads to promote the franchise as a whole for the last hurrah. If this isn't the case then those ads are pretty shady, at least to me they are.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2020-12-11T15:53:04.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-12-11T15:53:04.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:the-sims-4-en/category:the-sims-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en/message:1433506/message:1433524","repliesCount":0,"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"970","rawBody":"
\"Admiral8Q;c-17748028\" wrote:
\"Admiral8Q;c-17748011\" wrote:
\"Triplis;c-17747977\" wrote:
Given the image is the sims 4 logo, I would say it absolutely should be considered false advertising.


This statement alone I agree with.


Actually, after quick research, I stand corrected. This is an official EA advertisement.

Probably a version of \"Sims 5\" where it's the same but completely different. :p
Makes sense since Sims 4 probably is the last final of what we know for the Sims. After this it will be apps for your phone.

https://www.ea.com/games/the-sims/live-the-sims-life


Yeah i'm starting to get the vibes that ts4 may be the last in the series and they are using these ads to promote the franchise as a whole for the last hurrah. If this isn't the case then those ads are pretty shady, at least to me they are.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1433524_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:89390":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:89390","uid":89390,"login":"imahulazombie","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2019-08-15T10:41:59.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-11.svg?time=1721239713000"},"rank":null,"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:89390"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1433525":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1433525","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1433525":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:89390"},"id":"message:1433525","revisionNum":1,"uid":1433525,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1433506"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1433506"},"subject":"Re: Is this false advertising?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1433525"},"body":"so the sims 4 was on beta confirmed and now they're finally \"launching\" it?
or it's just marketing for the whole franchise?
man it would be so sad if this was the last sims game, but at the same time it's probably better this way","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2020-12-11T16:18:36.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-12-11T16:18:36.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:the-sims-4-en/category:the-sims-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en/message:1433506/message:1433525","repliesCount":0,"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"241","rawBody":"so the sims 4 was on beta confirmed and now they're finally \"launching\" it?
or it's just marketing for the whole franchise?
man it would be so sad if this was the last sims game, but at the same time it's probably better this way ","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1433525_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1433526":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1433526","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1433526":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:193961"},"id":"message:1433526","revisionNum":1,"uid":1433526,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1433506"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1433506"},"subject":"Re: Is this false advertising?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1433526"},"body":"I'm thinking now that it looks like they are probably looking to reboot the franchise, which is a way too common thing in entertainment. Sims 4 will become The Sims (1) and the previous games will get erased and forgotten, never to be compared again. Then the franchise will go in a whole new direction, doing whatever EA wants to do with their trend simulator, hiring new \"innovative\" devs who've never known what the original Sims was. Then they'll be rid of the higher standards of quality of the previous games.

And, unfortunately, this is becoming standard practice in related businesses. Take a blockbuster or bestseller and remake it, start it all over for a new generation, and change whatever doesn't fit the modern trends of the time, treading all over the original material.

Ugh. I hope I'm just being melodramatic and it means nothing, just silly marketing.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2020-12-11T16:56:53.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-12-11T16:56:53.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":0},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:the-sims-4-en/category:the-sims-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en/message:1433506/message:1433526","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"892","rawBody":"I'm thinking now that it looks like they are probably looking to reboot the franchise, which is a way too common thing in entertainment. Sims 4 will become The Sims (1) and the previous games will get erased and forgotten, never to be compared again. Then the franchise will go in a whole new direction, doing whatever EA wants to do with their trend simulator, hiring new \"innovative\" devs who've never known what the original Sims was. Then they'll be rid of the higher standards of quality of the previous games.

And, unfortunately, this is becoming standard practice in related businesses. Take a blockbuster or bestseller and remake it, start it all over for a new generation, and change whatever doesn't fit the modern trends of the time, treading all over the original material.

Ugh. 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