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Simtasticgallery
New Adventurer
3 months ago
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get_plex_tile_count LE/Residential lots revert to communtiy lot

Last Exception Error - Lot Type Issues

I'm experiencing a Last Exception error related to the get_plex_tile_count function in build_buy.py (line 838). The error message states that this function returned "NULL" without setting an error.

What’s happening in my game?

Some residential lots randomly change into community lots without me doing anything.

When this happens, a household wrongly becomes the owner of a business they shouldn't own.

Even if I manually sell the business and change the lot back to residential, most of the time the issue reverts it back. However I have found a workaround on another thread but I'd like to have an official patch that fixes it obviously.

What I’ve tried so far:

Changing the affected lot to Generic, saving, then switching it back to Residential.

Checking the map for any rental units (I don’t have any in my world).

I've removed the mods and custom content. And also have plenty of backups of the save file in question. I don't have any rental units in my game or had downloaded it (if so, all of them were set as residentials once I placed them from the gallery)

I've also cleared all my cache files

I'm still in the process of updating all my mods and deleting the outdated ones.

This new Last Exception error message suggests a problem with rental units that have no tiles, but as I have said before, I don’t have any rental lots placed. However, my game seems to think there is one and I don't know how to get rid of this issue!

Has anyone else experienced this issue or found a fix? Or knows what is happening with this second bug? Thanks!

Edit By Crinrict: Adjusted Title to better reflect the issue

8 Comments

  • BE and MCCC are both mods, so you need to remove that as well.

    After doing that, please delete all the lastexceptions, lastcrash and localthumbcache file.

    Go back to your game and trigger the error again.

    Check the documents folder for new lastexceptions. Open that with a text editor and copy/paste the content to a post.

    Does this also happen if you start a new save for testing or only on that one save ?

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    Simtasticgallery
    New Adventurer
    3 months ago

    I did all what you said and still this came up

    It doesn't happen on a specific lot on that main save but any that I open now. Remember I don't have rental units at all and neither (not even with mods or CC) before this patch this came out. 🤔  My game doesn't crash at all just generates the Localthumcache & this L.E. 

    Thanks in advance! This is the only save file that I play with but I have plenty of backups including for a week prior. 

    I didn't tested it with a new save file just because I just open the lot (on this main save file) and when I hit the Windows Hotkey I saw the L.E was already generated) ⬇️

    Update: Yes now I did and try to move (on a new save file from scratch) a Sim after creating it (again without CC or mods) but didn't generate the any L.E as far as I know. 

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    <report><version>2</version><sessionid>2b958dcc9c270dce67c0b541</sessionid><type>desync</type><sku>ea.maxis.sims4_64.15.pc</sku><createtime>2025-02-27 12:57:45</createtime><buildsignature>Local.Unknown.Unknown.1.113.277.1030-1.200.000.652.Release</buildsignature><categoryid>build_buy.py:838</categoryid><desyncid>2b958dcc9c270dce67c0b541</desyncid><systemconfig/><screenshot/><desyncdata>[manus] business_service failed to handle on_all_households_and_sim_infos_loaded due to exception (SystemError: <built-in function get_plex_tile_count> returned NULL without setting an error)
    Traceback (most recent call last):
    
      File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\areaserver.py", line 130, in wrapped
      File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\areaserver.py", line 126, in finally_wrap
      File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Core\sims4\utils.py", line 157, in wrapper
      File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Core\sims4\utils.py", line 175, in wrapper
      File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\areaserver.py", line 383, in c_api_client_connect
      File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\zone.py", line 611, in do_zone_spin_up
      File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\zone_spin_up_service.py", line 1711, in update
      File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\zone_spin_up_service.py", line 290, in on_enter
      File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\game_services.py", line 38, in on_all_households_and_sim_infos_loaded
      File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Core\sims4\service_manager.py", line 454, in on_all_households_and_sim_infos_loaded
      File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\business\business_service.py", line 843, in on_all_households_and_sim_infos_loaded
      File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\business\business_tracker.py", line 298, in on_all_households_and_sim_infos_loaded
      File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\business\business_manager.py", line 1458, in close_business
      File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\multi_unit\rental_unit_manager.py", line 812, in _close_business
      File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\multi_unit\rental_unit_manager.py", line 679, in calculate_max_rent
      File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\multi_unit\rental_unit_manager.py", line 669, in set_latest_tile_count
      File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\build_buy.py", line 838, in get_plex_tile_count
    SystemError: <built-in function get_plex_tile_count> returned NULL without setting an errorrtim=0
    Client Session Time: 21.01
     
    Num Save Errors: 0
     
    Num Load Errors: 0
     
    Current Game State: 0x96d01090
     
    LoadingScreenActiveFlag: 1
     
    Origin Version: 13,405,1,5914
     
    Modded: False
     
    SystemInfo: Windows 10 10.0.19045 GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GT 710 nvldumdx.dll 27.21.14.5671, GUID: D7B71E3E-51CB-11CF-F561-9DAC1BC2D635
     
    </desyncdata></report>
    </root>

    EDIT by crinrict: Formatting LE

  • What type of community lots did they turn into ? Did you ever have r-rentals on those lot that changed ?

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    Simtasticgallery
    New Adventurer
    3 months ago

    crinrictNo, those one of those lots were a house and the other one was originally a community lot downloaded from the gallery (neither of them are apartments / rental units). One is a Romatic Venue by Yukihyo and the other one is just a basic Tiny Storybook Stater I don't remember the user. 

    However another one that is a residential along with the previous one I mentioned somehow those always changes into a random Bar / Nightclub / Park is a house called: Professor's House made for Discover University. Even if I do the workaround found in other bug threads here, save etc.

    I'd like to clarify I've had this issue before but nothing major had happened on my Save File.  The only difference is that now after updating my game to the most recent  Business and Hobbies Base Game patch even without CC or Mods I am dealing with this Last Exception about my game believing that I have a rental unit when I don't (it doesn't even show up in the map or by going on the build mode).

    So I don't know what to do and that's exactly what I would like to fix. Just to know if I can keep playing or look for a backup. I didn't made any changes on my placed lots (...) the only ones I have in my world that are rental or different would be Vacation Rental and Tiny Houses.

    Will it be safe if I just "dismiss" the L.E and keep playing? Or not really? 

    Whenever I tried to bulldoze as of right now those lots. It somehow crashed. ⬇️

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    Thanks once again for your time and patience trying to sort out with this!