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Nightgypsy
Seasoned Ace
8 months ago
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Opposite sex Sims flirting with same sex Sims

I couldn't find a recent report regarding this but I did find a post about my exact same issue that was posted quite a while ago. 

Sims constantly flirting with same sex | EA Forums - 8599684

This exact same thing just happened in my game. It's not the first time it has but it is the first time I realized fairly quickly. I had to get a mod to fix it because I have found no way to get rid of romance bars with normal game cheats. And this is a HUGE problem when it does happen in the right situation because then sims get mad and feel cheated on and it is just a nightmare when it shouldn't have happened. This one though was accidental/glitch I believe, and i will explain why. 

Following is a snapshot of Caleb on vacation with his sister and her boyfriend. They are all vampires so remember they move fast. They were all sitting around the campfire talking Lilith's boyfriend started to serenade her. At that exact moment she jumped up and ran off to check on her child. Somehow the serenade redirected to Caleb and the romance satisfaction popped up and you can see in the screenshot how the boyfriend was now a romantic interest. Lilith came back quickly and her and the boyfriend kissed and Caleb lost it, slapping him so many times like I have never seen before. That is when I took him in the house and took this screenshot. As soon as I started playing the Vatore's I took them into CAS and set their romantic interests for both romance and woohoo to the opposite sex only and turned off exploring. Even with the peculiar circumstance of how this happened this time, the game should still not have allowed a romance to initiate for a sim that has opposite likes. 

Edit By Crinrict: Removed pack tag. Doesn't sound related to LS. Adjusted title a bit

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  • Do you only have this for the serenading or do they do other romantic interactions ? Do you have the freelove NAP active by chance ?

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    Nightgypsy
    Seasoned Ace
    8 months ago

    This actually happened on vacation in Granite Falls. To my knowledge there is no NAP there. Even so there was no freelove NAP going on at the home residence either. I turned off NAPs because of that one and the foodies unite. So the only things that get enacted are what I choose and vote on. 

    The other times this has happened I did not catch it so I am not really sure what happened, though I seem to remember something about enchanting introduction happening with a different sim before I could stop it. This one is one of those hard to gather data things. Maybe I should have waited until I had more than one instance before reporting. I just wasn't sure if it is going to become a problem since they seem to come and go on a whim in my game. I will be more diligent trying to catch these.

     I have noticed something else that might be part of it, or a separate issue entirely. The game sets most, if not all sims to swing both ways and I change them in CAS to only be interested in the opposite gender. When I have them out and about I frequently notice the green hearts with plusses happening when they're having conversations with same sex sims. I'm sure this has not always went on because it's been bugging me, but it hasn't done anything like create a romance bar, so I have been ignoring it while trying to figure out what is going on. 

  • In this photo you see Caleb and Lilith Vatore and Iris.  Everyone already knew each other so no introduction can be blamed for this one. They were standing around and chatting and next thing I know I see the wall message that Iris has learned Lilith's woohoo interests and I look in the relationship panel and sure enough there is a romantic relationship formed. Both sims are set for men only in CAS for both romantic and woohoo interests. Plus I always click on the sims themselves and disable attraction so that they only flirt with a sim they are in a romantic relationship with. This should not have happened. No NAPs at all in neighborhood.

     

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    takara0092
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    9 days ago

    I have also encountered a similar issue.

    I have observed two cases where Sims gain romance with Sims they are not romantically attracted to:

    Case 1: Serenade during group conversations

    Suppose Sim A and Sim B are in a romantic relationship, and Sim C (who is not romantically involved with either Sim) is part of the same group conversation.

    When Sim A performs a Serenade for Sim B, romance increases not only between Sim A and Sim B, but also between Sim A and Sim C after the interaction ends. However, this does not happen every time.

    I also experienced a situation similar to what Nightgypsy reported:

    During a group conversation, Sim A performs a Serenade for Sim B. If Sim B leaves for work in the middle of the interaction and only Sim C remains, romance increases only between Sim A and Sim C.

    In these cases, sexual orientation and family relationships are completely ignored. Romance can increase even between two heterosexual male Sims, or between related family members.

    Case 2: Certain romance-generating introductions (e.g., Enchanting Introduction)

    Some introductions, such as Enchanting Introduction, generate romance without taking sexual orientation into account.

    As a result, romance increases between Sims whose orientations do not match.

    The playable Sim performs this autonomously, and NPC Sims do so as well. It even occurs with Sims that are set to never engage in romance.

    I have observed the following cases:

    • A heterosexual female Sim using it on another female Sim, resulting in romance gain
    • A heterosexual male Sim using it on another male Sim, resulting in romance gain
    • A homosexual female Sim using it on a male Sim, resulting in romance gain
    • A Sim with no romantic attraction to any gender using it on a female Sim, resulting in romance gain

    Additionally, these interactions ignore not only sexual orientation, but also marital status and traits such as Loyal. I believe this may be a major cause of unintended cheating.

    While some romance-increasing introductions trigger jealousy when performed in front of a spouse, the Enchanting Introduction appears to generate romance without causing jealousy.

    Suggestion

    I would like to request the following adjustments:

    • Serenade should only increase romance with the intended target Sim
    • Romance-generating introductions should more strictly respect:
    • sexual orientation
    • relationship status (e.g., spouse)
    • traits (e.g., Loyal , CommitmentIssues)
    • and autonomy rules related to cheating behavior

    Additional Information

    • Platform: PC
    • Language: Japanese
    • Mods: Normally used, but the issue also occurs in a new save with mods disabled

    Owned DLC:

    • Expansion Packs: All except Adventure Awaits and Enchanted by Nature
    • Game Packs: All
    • Stuff Packs: All except Perfect Patio
    • Kits: Desert Luxe, Fashion Street, Courtyard Oasis, Blooming Rooms, Castle Estate, Little Campers, Business Chic, Cozy Bistro, Riviera Retreat, Country Kitchen, Industrial Loft, Tea Time Solarium, Silver Screen Style

    Please and thank you!

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    Nightgypsy
    Seasoned Ace
    9 days ago
    • Romance-generating introductions should more strictly respect:
    • sexual orientation
    • relationship status (e.g., spouse)
    • traits (e.g., Loyal , CommitmentIssues)
    • and autonomy rules related to cheating behavior
    •  
    Agreed on all of that but I want to specifically mention the attraction setting. Sims should not be able to use a romance generating introduction or have one used upon them when attraction is disabled for my sim. I'm going to borrow the above quote as I need to start a new report for this specific matter as it happened again today. 
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    Nightgypsy
    Seasoned Ace
    3 hours ago

    I have boiled what happened down to serenade bleed over, in my game anyway. I created a new bug report that is more appropriately titled and explained. If you feel that your issue is still in line with this you might want to copy your post to the new one as we will have a better chance of more people with the problem recognizing the bug report as what is happening to them. Here is the link to the new report.

    [LS] Serenade causes uninitiated romantic when target sim leaves multisim chat | EA Forums - 13318367

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