You do know that this is a team based game right?
So what you would like to see is that people who have friends can no longer play with them?
That is crazy and would cause a lot of people to leave the game, which of course is not in the interest of EA/Respawn or gamers.
Maybe you should find some people you can play with, which of course is the better solution.
like I stated before and others have stated in other posts on this topic. The game design is geared around team play. So for all of the people that want to play solo go ahead and do that, there is a no fill option. If those players want to put themselves at a disadvantage by doing that then so be it. Otherwise I suggest that they find a team or find a game that is more suited to solo play.
@Asmodeus566That is honestly the worst excuse on the planet...
Real teambased shooters like cs and valorant do give people the option to queue alone and its very unlikely that you run into a 5stack then...even games like lol/dota give a solo/duo queue to support people that dont wanna play in a full squad for what ever reason(you ofc wont run into a stack then)
Apex loses players because they cant just queue up solo without the feeling having "stacked" odds against them...they should split the queue, a solo/duo queue and a full premade queue like every god damn has nowadays lol...
And as you can see games that have much more focus on teamplay can even deliver that so why apex shouldnt be able to?
@RevMainPls Why premades should be banned when the game is far more enjoyable if you play it with friends? How about getting yourself a team instead of crying?
Some questions here.
1. Are you supporting the OP statement to have Premade teams removed from ranked play?
2. Or are you supporting a solo Q mode?
I like to play with friends and the game was developed around team based play and being able to play with friends. Are you suggesting that the Dev's remove one of the core game designs? If so I do not think that that will happen.
If you can find the "I" in "Team" please let me know.
I do understand what you are getting at because not everyone can has friends that play or even play at the same level as you and therefore can not team up with you. Finding other like minded and skilled players to play with out there is not easy, but can be done. I know there are a lot of times when I played with Randoms that I wish I should have solo-Q'ed. Keep up the good fight maybe some sort of support for solo Q'ers will happen in the future but removing the ability to play ranked games with friends is not going to be removed. EA will never do that as it would ruin competitive play at all levels.
Thanks for answering my questions.
If I offended you I did not mean to.
I agree with you getting rid of playing with friends would be weird and bad.
Your idea about solo Q'ing for random teams vs only other random teams is a great suggestion. People that work with the Devs and have more info/skills and data on this should maybe take a look into this as a possible solution.
"Just cuz you are not premade doesn't make a ME player, i can still play for the team while im queuing with randoms" Good to hear, I try to do the same when playing with Randoms.
@RevMainPls I'm assuming that since having two separate queues is not possibile since wait time would be too long, especially in high tier ranked where it already takes too much time to find a game. Also as @hayhor mentioned, MM already does something about solo queuing and premade queuing. And i'm talking as a guy that mostly plays solo, i'm really not seeing the issue here.
@Cro_Pitttyour assumptions dont make it facts my friend
@Asmodeus566no offence taken no worries
I do have to say that @Cro_Pittt is correct especially when looking at higher tier lobbies. Diamond and above rank make up 2.5% or 5% (depends on whet data you look at) of the overall player base and MM q times can be longer. If this is further diluted by 2 different types of Q's it might not be viable. The Devs would have the data and would be able to decide if that is or is not a viable option and that might already be why this is not being done.
@Asmodeus566Top level queues are already 10+ minutes. No way those could be seperate. And the lower levels shouldn't have different rules than the top.
@hayhor wrote:@Asmodeus566Top level queues are already 10+ minutes. No way those could be seperate. And the lower levels shouldn't have different rules than the top.
@hayhor I fully agree with you. I do not think that splitting the ques would work very well and (if at all) also do not think something like that could or should cater to specific ranks.
What @RevMainPls suggested is not a bad suggestion however like I said it is probably not a viable solution to his (and others) problem.
'Team Based Game'
Sure, by marketing, but when playing with the public, it's mostly a play alone game. People SAY they want 'team play' but they MEAN, 'Do what I want you to do when I want you and tell you to do it!"
If you removed premades, then you would literally have none team play at all. You can look to Overwatch to see what kind of disaster that turned out to be, with forced character roles and other stupid mechanics to try to force people to 'work as a team' rather than simply giving them incentives enough to.
Apex Legends does not incentivize public team play. In fact, it favors ignoring your public team mates. Only premade teams act like teams, mostly also and not always. Sure, I get there's a difference between a server with premades and servers without, the premades have a big advantage.
Still, you'd have a massive population drop if you forced only premades, so the best option is to make sure you have different server games. One with only premade teams, and the other with only public teams. I'm not sure that's feasible, but then at least you'd have a team marketed game with premade teams facing premade teams, and then a bunch of people running around no longer buying into a marketing illusion and understanding what it is really all about when you are playing in public.
@KelRiever I hear you, but do not agree.
Do you play as a team player, when playing with Randoms?
Do you have people you 3 stack with and play as a team?
Do you solo Q and just forget about the other two Players?
Or do you solo Q with the no fill option?
The discussion is/was not about public games but rather Ranked games.
No one suggested forced premade teams however for a team based game if you are going to play with Randoms one would have to find a middle ground to play as a team.
I have had some of my most fun games (not necessarily the best games) playing as a team with 2 Randoms quite often.
If premade teams (playing with friends) was no longer possible the game would no longer be worth it in my opinion.
@Asmodeus566 @I really don’t think about it that much. The way the game is designed, Ranked is the best way to play as a pre-made team, or solo if you haven’t hit a pre-made team. The vast majority of Apex games, ranked or otherwise, are awful if you are trying to play as a team with a group of strangers, though if you have to and just can’t get over playing on your own because it says ‘team game’ in the commercial and you gotta believe, then play Arenas.
I play the part of the game I enjoy, when I enjoy it.
@KelRiever wrote:@Asmodeus566 @I really don’t think about it that much. The way the game is designed, Ranked is the best way to play as a pre-made team, or solo if you haven’t hit a pre-made team. The vast majority of Apex games, ranked or otherwise, are awful if you are trying to play as a team with a group of strangers, though if you have to and just can’t get over playing on your own because it says ‘team game’ in the commercial and you gotta believe, then play Arenas.
I play the part of the game I enjoy, when I enjoy it.
Well said. It is always best to play with a set team when you can in any mode. Solo Q`ing with other Randoms can be hit and miss but I tend to have about 70% of the time decent Randoms. with that said people need to stack up when they can and just deal with the rest.
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