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SmoggyDolphin55's avatar
6 years ago

R99 Needs The Biggest Nerf I Have Ever Seen In A Game...

Let me tell you guys a funny story... just an hour ago I got home, turned apex on and went into ranked, in the past in kings canyon was the best days on apex before the wildlife came in because everything wasn’t nerfed and to me the only weapon that need a touch was the wingman and peacekeeper. Now, I go on to the match and I am dying... and dying... and dying... to nothing but the r99, nothing else, but the r99. Before the g7 needed to go back to 30 damage and pathfinder shouldnt have gotten the low profile for how large he actually is in size. Now, I get lasered by the gun at impossible ranges from a weapon that shouldn’t do 11 damage at such a high interval. I can’t react, with it being 12 or more for headshot, with pathfinder, I can’t do anything when THREE of them are firing at me or even two... someone made a suggestion to do what they did with the devotion, PUT IT INTO THE CARE PACKAGE WITH LIMITED AMMO... it evens that playing field for all the weapons and maybe ALL THE COMMUNITY can go back to having fun in a non bullet hell shoot that was imported from Japan.

I know everyone on here will say “no, it doesn’t” that’s because they are the ones using it... 

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  • @SmoggyDolphin555 Well, if they put it into the care package, how much ammo would it have? It burns through a lot, and would be more of a one battle weapon if it didn’t have enough. Also, when two people are firing at you at the same time, most people would die regardless of the weapon. (Within reason.)
  • Well, good question, however, surprisingly, you don’t burn through ammo if you can down them in less than one clip... 20 rounds is all you need with a couple of headshots. With what I am coming at, the r99 has no RECOIL for it has such a predictable climb, in terms of ammo for in the package, 4 clips would be the best in a late game package. It needs addressing, I can’t even react in any game for how many of them are shooting at me, regardless if it be 1,2 or 3. If you can’t see why this needs addressing then you are one of those that go in a pre-made squad aiming for the r99, for every other weapon is redundant. 

  • @SmoggyDolphin555 Okay, 3 people firing at you with ANY gun will cause you to die.. I had 3 mosamgarbages at me and I had a PK, I DIED. Lol.

    I don't use the R99 because of its fire rate, in almost all shooting games I play, I always use high damage per shot weapons. The R99 should actually get a fire rate buff. Increase the fire rate and decrease the damage to 10. It makes it harder then because recoil goes up and you have to figure out how to land your shots before reloading.

    HOWEVER

    I do agree all SMGs should get a HARD rage nerf. After 50m, the damage should be like 3-9 depending on the gun.
  • R99 is in a good place. Still meta but definitely well countered by Flatline, L-Star, PK, even the Prowler, as well as Mastiff / Devo. That's not even mentioning the ol' reliable R301, still a great all purpose gun 

    It's overused, and still very good, but it's no longer OP

  • R99 is already at a pretty good position no need to need or buff it and moreover if it becomes a care package weapon with just 4 clips and 20 rounds each noone will exchange their already set loadout for such a downgrading trade r99 is better where it is maybe nerf it after certain range reduce mag size but what you suggest will really be no good

  • @SmoggyDolphin555 Yep, its boring. R99 every gun fight and 90% Wraith picks are why I have stopped playing the game.
    Things might change in season 6 with the addition of the Volt and a new legend but i doubt it make much difference as any gun that is as good as or better than the 99 gets nerfed. I honestly think they should buff the Alternator to give us more variety as well but that ain't going to happen.
    I have moved on now but might give it a go in season 6 and see if anything has changed.
  • Time to kill is very high currently so peoples get up close and play "peek a poo" with r99 to be as little possible on open, because single person is most of the times unable to kill you during these short peaks with any other guns or win trades. and if enemy realises they are getting hit alot more during these peaks that they are doing, they will start pushing relentlessly and get one pumped by mastiff by the time they get to you.

    What is purpose of having r-301 if you never see enemy long enough when they run from rock to rock towards you with r99 until they're in optimal distance, possibly healing between these transitions for a bit. by the time they get to close distance it's usually either forced shotgun battle or lost fight if you dont have close combat gun.

    having medium distance weapon is especially punishing with random teammates who are more often then not unable to deal any additional damage on top of what you did to somebody so only option is to pick weapon that gives you highest chance to stop enemies who push as three man premade and you're technically forced to run in houses trying to 1vs3 them by making them get lost to your movement. it's impossible to stop three man push ALONE in time with guns like r-301 because they are designed not to be as lethal because of  additional range they give that is NOT ENOUGH

    I know it's alot of text but to simplify, medium range guns are viable in premade teams, but not with solo players. reason why three man stacks take r99 is because they just like having fun doing ape stuff where as opposite solo players are forced to take it to try fight back these premade teams.

    odds of really good solo player killing good premade team are almost unexistant and these teams know it so there is two options

    - make medium range weapons more competitive in close combat

    - separate three man teams from players who queue alone into ranked games to give them even playing ground

    I think latter of these is not implemented because "there is not enough playerbase to separate those two in ranked if we look at statistics" and that is wrong way of thinking because implementing this could potentially increase playerbase negating this. casual ranked players dont wanna play ranked because of three man teams always * them so they leave to other games and now there is literally NO solo players left in ranked queue. i run into same peoples day after day in ranked when playing solo wich implements there is not many of us left if they always end up in my team

  • I think you perceive the R99 as broken because at least one person on three uses a no recoil cheat (based on my subjective estimations), which, coupled with the R99's high RoF makes it the perfect weapon. 

    It's not possible to laser someone at 50m with a R99, there's too much recoil even with a purple stabilizer, and even if you're really good at mitigating it by hand. Spend a little time spectating your killers sometimes, you'll see often they have NO recoil whatsoever and are always using a R99 or R301. Watch streamers too, most of them use this cheat too. Apex has really gone downward compared to when I played in S1.

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