Re: Map SELECTION ! REMOVE ROTATION PLEASE!

@MonhulioThis might be anecdotal but I'd say it's somewhat relevant as I might not be the only one (judging by the forums, I'm not). But two of my friends I used to play have stopped playing (we played every day until rotations), I still play but not nearly as much as I used to. First couple days I'd check which map is on and leave if KC was on the menu, played if it was WE, however switched to a different game as soon as KC came back on. Nowadays I don't even enter the game to check, I open a random stream and see what map is on, if it's not to my liking I play something else for the remainder of the day.

I have enough coins for the next battlepass, but I'm not getting it if rotations stay. Not out of protest, just the mere fact that I know I won't play the game nearly enough to justify it.

I am aware of the changes although to me they aren't really meaningful at all. I think that if my map selection isnt plausible (which I believe it is) then remove KC in general. Its old. Let the game move forward with new maps and new pieces to the story. Map rotation is a bad system and the feedback has been a resounding NO from so many players. Map selection or choose 1 map. 

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Many games use the same system and I do not think you are taking into account the "consequences" of map rotation. Players are leaving the game. I am aware that each sides has pros and *. I've read about them. I heard both sides. "The numbers" will definitely reflect the benefit of map selection. It not just what I want but what the majority of community wants if you scroll through and actually look at the feedback. There are many ways that selection can work  and que times wouldn't be that long.  There are many tactics that can be tried because rotation is a bad and annoying system. Even if we couldn't get map rotation( which im positive we can) then it should change back to just WE like I stated in my other post because rotation is NOT a good system. 

@7xRelaxJust thought of a solution to your complaint. What if duo's and trio's alternated between each map at a similar rate? Would that be satisfactory? Then, theoretically you can always choose which map, though you can't quite full squad in it as easily. While duo's is in KK, trios is in worlds edge, and it swaps over at a similar rate as currently. Still 3 modes, better map selection.

Also not being rude, but at this point its just stale and seemingly pointless. The LTM, for now at least, allows people to play the map they want but  pushing KC on us in season 5 seems silly (in lieu of other words) to me. Your statement is still not as solid to me also. We could do selection especially on console especially if there was cross-platform. Can't "please" everyone but i guess when the game gets stale and most of the player drop it for other games then I guess you REALLY wont have the player base for it. Tweaks to KC wont make it We and it almost makes me ask why did they made WE to begin with if they were going to just push it away even though data shows that after season 2 it greatly increased player base and gameplay. I'd honestly even rather they create a whole New map instead of trying to choke us with KC which is not only less fun to play on, but artistically stale looking (to me at the very least). Also, the map rotation argument would still be valid even after season 5 if they push KC because we still wouldn't want to rotate to the map we don't like.....obviously that is why we want selection or just getting rid of KC ()which I still feel is a lackluster map) or even both areas for new things.....but it seems no one cares and respawn will do what it wants so many people will have to find fun somewhere else. Sad but simple

@Andrexal300Again, what if duo's and trio's alternate each on their own timeline between the two maps? You wouldn't be able to full squad as you please, but you WOULD get your map selection technically speaking.

I would also wait to see what happens in season 5, KK or no. We honestly have no idea the full scope of what "is or isn't good enough" for a map change until we have it. Outside of new character, nothing else has actually been confirmed. Only theorized, datamined info and teasers.

Will we get a 3rd map? Eventually, and if we are being misled again it could be this coming season, if not perhaps next season.

I would really suggest you "reflect" on the idea / mindset that "they don't listen" or "they push stuff on us we don't want". The entire reason rotations were put in was BECAUSE people wanted to play KK again. Then they played and realized it wasn't nearly as good as they remembered and a full reversal occurred. They put it in as rotation because playerbase size, maybe that will change when the hinted at crossplay feature finally hits (dev hinted at it coming really soon, but unknown how soon that is).

Revenant got a massive buff from both loud feedback and data details. Mirage getting buff if not a rework. Potentially lifeline too. Players ask for KK and get it (they discover they didn't want, but still they got what they asked for). Bloodhound got a much needed buff, Gibby too. KK after dark got removed from rotation playlist, rotation time on KK got reduced. Crypto (if not all characters that can proc threat detection) are getting an ability to increase damage a spotted enemy takes. And a fair number of other things they "responded to feedback on".

A response to feedback isn't always instant, it isn't always in the way any specific person wants or thinks it should occur, and claiming "no one cares" is a narrow view. Remember, just because a handful of us post on the forums or reddit, does not make any of us part of the majority that feels any particular way. Many of the majority don't even actually post or comment TBH.

Can they tweak the way the rotation works? Yes. Should the remove it? No, as using the same argument you just used, playing the same map for 3-4 months can be very "stale and uninteresting". Could they eventually add map selection when the playerbase supports it / crossplay comes along (with the PC cheaters it will entail?) yes.

You want a prime example of why we can't have map selection right now? I tried selecting regular rotation during this event with a full squad. We couldn't even start a single match. The fact that this is actually possible proves they are right in being cautious with any additional "map selection" methods. Especially since we now have 3 permanent game modes. Adding map selection right now? Would make that a 5. It's duo's / trios, KK / WE, or my suggested combination rotation of the two. You can't and won't get both of those any other way until crossplay.

"Sad but simple".

@MonhulioI actually did play the event yesterday and alternate between the two in order to play WE and thoroughly enjoyed it. As for your "other BRs argument" it's pointless. I don't play other BRs and don't find them fun at all. The solution is very easy for me, if I'm not having fun I spend my money elsewhere where I do.