Recently I've been thinking a lot about the hop-ups in the game and I don't know if it's just because I don't use any this season, but I feel like the system could use a change. I think things really started getting weird after they made Choke a constant feature of PK and TT. I don't think it's broken or anything, but why do they just got a straight upgrade?As far as this season's selection of hop-ups goes, Turbocharger is the only one I ever get use out of. I don't really utilize Anvil, and none of the shotguns have hop-ups. Since the Bocek needs 2 hop-ups there just isn't much room for others.I had a few ideas for reworking the hop-ups in the game. First and foremost I think that we can boot quickdraw right? All of the buffs that it adds are just stats that can be worked into all pistols. Shouldn't all pistols have faster draw time and ADS speed? And weapon accuracy is something that regularly gets balanced, so this hop up seems kind of redundant. The other thought that I had was adding all hop-ups into the permanent crafting system. Replicators would then serve as a place to upgrade your weapons and maybe replicator drops would be worth something. Finally, if Turbocharger is here to stay with the Havoc, maybe move Selectfire to L-Star? I might just be bad, but using purple sights with this thing is a nightmare. I imagine the single fire shots being pretty similar to the Havoc, except it would overheat after 3 or 4 shots. Also I just think it would be dope to fire some red plasma beams at folks.

@SheepsKing Hop-ups in general are questionable. I get that they pose and serve as an upgrade. But in a lot of cases the upgrade is simply not worth the effort of finding one, let alone pick up the respective weapon for it. (RE-45, Wingman)Prime example being Quickdraw Holster. Cool idea, but that doesn't fix the weapons. Or well, it doesn't fix the RE-45. You could easily convert this one into "Akimbo" hop-up, and allow it to be used on the RE-45 and P2020. If you have two identical weapons, you can dual-wield them. Would perhaps make the P2020 and RE-45 better.I kinda want double-tap trigger back. I loved that on the G7 Scout.

@Peri_Longbow_plz @SheepsKing How would you feel about the idea of entirely removing hop ups as an attachment and just having said hop ups integrated into their respective weapons? With a little fine tuning where needed of course.Asides from the turbocharger...most of the hop ups are just loot pool clutter to be honest.

@MandatoryIDtag I rarely use any weapons that require a hop-up, be it Havoc, devo or prowler.Why waste time on a 'chance' that you might find it?

@MandatoryIDtagNothing really speaks against hop-ups in general. That they exist and are in the game is nothing I particularly despise. What bothers me is that they a) clutter the loot pool and b) are usually useless.The three exceptions for me are double-tap trigger, Turbo charger and Deadeye's tempo. Shatter caps are situational and most useful on the 30-30 Repeater.We could do two things. Add all of them into the game simultaneously and make them exclusive to replicators (getting their own tab), so they make replicators more relevant, or make actually useful hop-ups. Like a hop-up for the L-Star that allows for a charged shot for example.

I miss the hop up for the Mozambique. It was pretty situational because most people wouldn't stick with the gun for very long even if they had the hop up but if you managed to bag both early game it would wreck people. I like where the Mozambique is right now, but I think its lost its place in the game a bit. It is now a genuinely decent gun to use, but before it was either pretty bad or awesome depending on the hop up. Right now I feel like the purple hop-ups are just spam, its just more random stuff you pick up early game and dump on the floor when you get a chance. I agree that where they are right now with them isn't a good place and they should look to rework them.

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Peri_Longbow_pl
5 years ago
@SheepsKing Hop-ups in general are questionable. I get that they pose and serve as an upgrade. But in a lot of cases the upgrade is simply not worth the effort of finding one, let alone pick up the respective weapon for it. (RE-45, Wingman)

Prime example being Quickdraw Holster. Cool idea, but that doesn't fix the weapons. Or well, it doesn't fix the RE-45. You could easily convert this one into "Akimbo" hop-up, and allow it to be used on the RE-45 and P2020. If you have two identical weapons, you can dual-wield them. Would perhaps make the P2020 and RE-45 better.

I kinda want double-tap trigger back. I loved that on the G7 Scout.
MandatoryIDtag
5 years ago
@Peri_Longbow_plz @SheepsKing How would you feel about the idea of entirely removing hop ups as an attachment and just having said hop ups integrated into their respective weapons? With a little fine tuning where needed of course.
Asides from the turbocharger...most of the hop ups are just loot pool clutter to be honest.
Peri_Longbow_pl
5 years ago
@MandatoryIDtagNothing really speaks against hop-ups in general. That they exist and are in the game is nothing I particularly despise. What bothers me is that they a) clutter the loot pool and b) are usually useless.

The three exceptions for me are double-tap trigger, Turbo charger and Deadeye's tempo. Shatter caps are situational and most useful on the 30-30 Repeater.

We could do two things. Add all of them into the game simultaneously and make them exclusive to replicators (getting their own tab), so they make replicators more relevant, or make actually useful hop-ups. Like a hop-up for the L-Star that allows for a charged shot for example.
Piabetic
5 years ago
I miss the hop up for the Mozambique. It was pretty situational because most people wouldn't stick with the gun for very long even if they had the hop up but if you managed to bag both early game it would wreck people. I like where the Mozambique is right now, but I think its lost its place in the game a bit. It is now a genuinely decent gun to use, but before it was either pretty bad or awesome depending on the hop up.
Right now I feel like the purple hop-ups are just spam, its just more random stuff you pick up early game and dump on the floor when you get a chance. I agree that where they are right now with them isn't a good place and they should look to rework them.
hayhor
Hero
5 years ago
@SheepsKing I vote to get rid of all hop ups. Balance the havoc and the devo so they wouldnt become OP and give the havoc a single fire option like the r301 and flatline have.
BaldWraithSimp
5 years ago
@MandatoryIDtag I rarely use any weapons that require a hop-up, be it Havoc, devo or prowler.

Why waste time on a 'chance' that you might find it?
SheepsKing
Rising Vanguard
5 years ago
@MandatoryIDtag I wouldn't want to add hop-ups to weapons since I think that would water down the effectiveness of the hop-ups. If I remember correctly, the Mozam can do 100 damage on flesh with Hammerpoint. That would be completely unbalanced if it were just a feature on the weapon. I'm sure they could change it to be more fair, but I doubt it would be as fun that way either. Taking things out of the loot pool is a slippery slope, but hop-ups have always been tedious to loot. Some hop-ups like Hammerpoint, and Turbocharger have the power to make weak or underwhelming guns competitivly viable, and so it isn't that great having them be so ilusive. I'd say put them all in replicators, and buff Loba's ultimate so that it players can collect the crafting materials in the area.
SheepsKing
Rising Vanguard
5 years ago
@hayhor I wouldn't mind this happening except Hammerpoint is way too fun to give up. Plus, I never got to use Disrupter Rounds so I need hop ups to survive until it makes a return
Lord_Scorpion34
Legend
5 years ago
@hayhor Exactly. We've talked about this very thing before lol.
MandatoryIDtag
5 years ago
@SheepsKing I agree completely, that's what I meant by fine tuning. A 6 shot hammerpoint mozambique would instantly be CQC meta, wouldn't be a fun experience to play against.
I just personally feel that what they did with the precision chokes was a good step, the same could easily be done with the likes of tempo, selectfire and even shattercaps ( although I would attach them to the repeater solely, pointless on the bow).
I do think respawn are quite fond of the hop up concept though so it's not like this will ever come to pass I suppose.