Forum Discussion

Re: Cheaters in China are everywhere.

@DoYaSeeMeAnd you just explained why it’s impossible to keep a free to play game cheater free. I’m sick of playing simply because of the cheaters. There are way to many. Play for a day and you go against them frequently enough to ruin the experience. The game has been over run with cheaters and it’s too much to police. So I’m taking a break and seeing if anything changes in a few months. All other titles I have ever played do not have the cheater problem Apex does. They have cheaters but it’s not out of control like it is with Apex.  Fortnight free to play and somehow isn’t is littered with cheaters. Perhaps it’s because they’re spending more money controlling them. Apex simply let it get out of hand. I think they’ve been too cheap about it.

13 Replies

  • @DavidW74 I think Fortnite is much more casual than Apex, it's not all about who shoots first, bullet drop and velocity, ttk and weapons are different, there is a lot of building, side events, etc.. Cheating makes less sense or may be harder to notice in that game.

    Apex went the free way for pretty solid reasons and it really looks like the best choice, even with so many cheaters. I'd rather lose 2-3 fights a day to cheaters, but enjoy the other 7-8 out of 10 matches, instead of waiting forever for the queue to fill up if I want to play PvP in Titanfall 2. That game has so many similarities with Apex Legends, yet very few Apex fans open their wallets to spend 10$ or even less to get it and try all those interesting modes.
  • @DoYaSeeMe 

    True..I'm not saying the dev's should be roasted at all. The main problem lies with Easy ac itself and not doing what it's contracted out/paid to do.

    There are some players out there that, unfortunately, don't have the "experience" of having to deal with cheaters everyday. Like you said, you don't cheat and laser a guy. But, he immediately thinks you are cheating. I always give players the benefit of the doubt, watch their game play, then report or not. But some just report/complain because they're salty. This, specifically, is a problem because of a thing called "ego".

    Remember when there was that speed hack in S1/S2?  Almost every match had one. That's kind of how it is with obvious aimbots since S4 has came out. At least on the TW/HK servers(op). That's why so many people play on other servers. Rather play with a higher ping than deal with hacks.

    ❤️

  • @DavidW74 

    They both use Easy anti cheat. I'm not a Dev, so how can it be more thorough in one game but not the other? @DoYaSeeMe

    Honest question cause I don't get it.🤔 .Different types of coding are easier to get around possibly?

    ❤️

  • Jimmahwd's avatar
    Jimmahwd
    6 years ago
    @jumanjaydazed I'm not sure what the case is with Apex.
    But normally when an Anti-Cheat company is hired, you pay for different levels of Anti-Cheat.
    Like Bronze, Silver and Gold for example.
    Knowing EA, we can only assume which they pony'd up for.
  • @Jimmahwd Plat service of course, I mean why wouldn't they love to see their players enjoy a cheater free world 🙌 

  • @Jimmahwd I think it's pretty different with anti cheat solutions. They probably have to be specifically tailored for each game / engine., which means a unique contract with each client. Also, I really doubt anyone would buy "partial protection". Why waste money like that? Makes no sense.
  • UwPsycho's avatar
    UwPsycho
    6 years ago

    This is what we encounter everyday, every 5 out of 10 matches. Before I didn't upload a full video because for me what I showed was enough, but since you are not sure about my judgment, here you are enjoy this GOD OF APEX.

    [Removed by CM]

  • EA_Darko's avatar
    EA_Darko
    Icon for Community Manager rankCommunity Manager
    6 years ago

    Hey all, please do not accuse any other users of cheating as doing so is technically a breach of the AHQ User Rules and Guidelines.

    From here on out, any naming of users or accusing others of cheating will be actioned.

    If you are in game and suspect a user of cheating then please report them by following the steps in this link: https://help.ea.com/en-tr/help/faq/report-players-for-cheating-abuse-and-harassment/

    We take all reports very seriously and will fully investigate.

    Darko

  • UwPsycho's avatar
    UwPsycho
    6 years ago

    @DoYaSeeMe
    This is what we encounter everyday, every 5 out of 10 matches. Before I didn't upload a full video because for me what I showed was enough, but since you are not sure about my judgment, here you are enjoy this GOD OF APEX.

    oh... my prev videos have been removed, so I will send you the video links in a PM and I'm deleting this links. sorry.

  • @UwPsychoEven if there is a 99% certainty that those are cheaters, there's still account and tracking to be verified. They need 100% certainty when dropping the hammer.

    Just think a little, it's not hard to edit the videos you've sent and put your nickname instead of the hackers. If someone would judge solely on those videos, without checking if tracking and account history match the evidence, you would get banned unfairly. They can't afford that 1% risk of being wrong, because it can translate into thousands of players getting punished for no reason, destroying this game for good.

  • UwPsycho's avatar
    UwPsycho
    6 years ago

    Even if there is a 99% ? Are you kidding me ? Why are you defending these people ? Did you watch the videos I sent you ? Even when he's shoting someone the aimbot change is aim to the enemy who is knocked down behind the wall ! Theres no "chance" they are using a 3rd party program ! 

    I'm done with you. Have a nice day.

  • @UwPsycho I'm not defending anyone, just explaining to you how things work.

    Captured videos are circumstantial evidence, no matter how obvious they seem to be, while tracked data & account history can produce direct evidence, ruling out alternative explanations for what happens in the footage.

    Why are videos just circumstantial? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78L6I6vsfrU
  • UwPsycho's avatar
    UwPsycho
    6 years ago

    What a pity, I can't watch youtube videos, I live in China this website is blocked.

    You are explaining how things work, that's great, I'm glad that you are. In anti cheat website they provide the site to upload video fotage. I believe this fotage is enough evidence to show this person is using an aimbot. I want to know your opinion. Do you think so ? 

    There might be some videos were you can't be sure. But sometimes you can be 200% sure about it.