Re: Anyone getting the same random stutter ingame?W/ frametime graph (3080)

I have nothing that could cause the random stutter.It's the game/driver ma dude.

Honestly I think everyone has some form of stutter on apex at this point.It's just ppl tolerate such low standards that it  becomes their new norm and think its fine.

Willing to bet if everyone played with a frametimegraph up they would notice the issue MUCH more.

@supermatze0202"okay, currently i use the newest driver and get beside the 3 Spikes also isolated frimetimespikes (only one spike and not 3 spikes)"

Oh so you're only getting single isolated spikes? (Nothing like what I'm getting?)

You said "besides" I understood it as you also get random single stutters + the 3 quick frametime spikes.

Just so you know it looks like 3 frametime spike when it happens live in game on the frametimegraph.On MSI afterburner hardware monitor it looks like 1 big spike because they all happen at once.

The 3 spikes ingame and the 1 singular spike in the msi hardware monitor are the same spike.

For me the game its pretty much 99% smooth most of the time.The only "spikes" I see is this specific spike.Always the same pattern on the graph/ingame.

@supermatze0202Oh ok.So not only do you get the 3 frametimespikes but since you downloaded the latest drivers you also get random single spikes?

A person here called Neil79 has noticed High dpc latency in both the 461.06 and 461.33 drivers.(got liked by 3 others so there's more then 1 person with the issue)

https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/geforce-461-40-whql-drivers-download-discussion.436432/  may or may not be realated

You said you using the newest driver right? Try going back to 457.51 and see if those random single stutters go away.This driver is suggested frequently as one of the most stable.Drivers in the 460.XX range seem to be more "busted" then normal

https://imgur.com/a/ukfZOpZ  Here's my services list.

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@7empePL wrote:
@supermatze0202Game Mode "on", HAGS "on", fullscreen optimization disabled. NVIDIA Driver 461.40. However Game Mode and HAGS in any combination do not cause the stuttering. Stuttering is caused by drastical latency increase of the NVIDIA kernel driver due to the scheduler assigning CPU time to other process like disk I/O, hardware polling (e.g. temperature readouts, RGB control - especially with non static light scheme and so on). Random, significant frametime spikes may be caused by this. Regular stuttering is rather caused by wrong configuration of the Reflex/FPS cap/V-Sync/G-Sync/NVCP settings.

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Stuttering and lag are caused by TRASH servers, TRASH netcode, TRASH game optimization ex (every ult. gibby, horizion, bangalore, thermite grenades, have a big impact on FPS drops no matter what graphic card/settings you have) all combined = TRASH gaming experiance! 

If your system can maintain ex. 190 fps, during intense gun fights/ults your fps will drop to 140, if you cap your fps to 140 so you don t have fps drops anymore it will still drop to 90 ... so any hardware/software you have this game will still behave poorly because nobody is taking the time to investigate/fix the things that are important for gameplay, they concentrate their energy in making it look pretty for twitch to make kids spend money on skins and loot boxes!   

@7empePL+ the fact like 2-3 other peeps are getting the same exact 3 frametime spike pattern is also a big giveaway.

As for change I did go from a 1080ti on driver 442.59 (last driver without reflex which didn't have the issue from what I remember) to a 3080.Nothing else has been changed other then that.

Sadly I can't go back to a reflexless driver on a 3080 just to test if the specific 3 pattern spike shows up on it  because it could rule out the driver then and the only culprit left would be the game.

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/notifications/comment/202948/  Yea another issue that Nvidia messed up.I tried contacting manuel there I got ignored.This was 25 days ago.

I used the command to turn off  reflex and since the game stopped capping at 138 fps I assumed it worked and reflex was off.It did not fix the frametime when testing so I used rtss to frame limit to 138 and 99% of the frametime was rock solid 7.1ms instead of wildly flailing between 6.9-10ms.

Also the Nvidia fps limiter doesn't workd properly with Apex either as the frametime still remains uncontrollable.RTSS does it tho.

@supermatze0202V-sync on CP/off ingame and -3 max frame limit.That's it.
Always used these settings before with apex and never got any issues.

Oops.

Edit:ignore my comment.I saw the reply notification and tought you spoke with me.

@7empePLI just tried using the nvidia fps limiter to 141 on apex with and without "reflex" using this command "+gfx_nvnUseLowLatency 0" and the frametime was still erratic on both.

The only difference the command did was removing the 138fps cap.
Reflex not actually getting properly disabled as it should maybe?

You said it yourself "responsibility of frame pacing with Reflex is moved to the game" the game isn't fully disabling reflex even with the command then.

Another question is if its the game itself thats not letting reflex be disabled properly then why did driver 442.59 not have these erratic frametimes?That tells me the driver is related.

i have this issue too i have 1060 nvidia i used run fine before new update i play 75hz on vsync.