Hello, this will be a discussion topic on why the Legendary Edition was made other than a wonderful cash grab. The number of bugs keep increasing, Shepard can't access Stasis because apperantly they removed the trigger for the power to be available for Advanced Training after they removed the trophy associated with catching up with Liara on the Normandy SR-2 and Bioware didn't took the time to get its act straight. If you recall a nice little addition to the second game release was the Cerberus News Network and the fun stories they had. Some turned out to be teasing characters for the third game and others were like DLC teasers (like the ones from the Arrival Dr proving that the Protheans weren't the creators of the Mass Relays and that lead to the events where the Galaxy grounds Shepard for six months after doing their dirty work yet again) but what I am interested is that there was in the stories a species discovered to be living on a Ghost ship and inside the ships data banks (so what the Reapers do) as they escaped from an event involving their Sun (like the Dark Energy theory we hear a lot). Yet come the third game anx this entire plot was not only scrapped but put in jeopardy thanks to the rushed Destroy ending explination:

@draconiamI have to chime in on this. Shepard, in Mass Effect 2 was working with Cerberus. It translates perfectly that none of this would be available to Shepard who, from the beginning, is under house arrest.At the end of The Arrival, Admiral Hacket states clearly that Shepard will have to return and answer for all that he did. Vega tells Ashley that Shepard was under constant surveillance while under arrest.There is simply no way that he was going to have access to anything gained while working with Cerberus. And his house arrest being interrupted by Reapers, escaping across a ruined, war ravaged city, and boarding a Normandy that only then was given under his command, did Shepard have any chance of access. Heck, Shepard’s reinstatement wasn’t even made official until after Mars.Unfortunately, by that time, the only accessible items that would be around would be on the fleeing Normandy SR2. My point being: from a long-play standpoint it kind of sucks, but, from a role playing aspect, to have anything more would violate continuity. Unless the Normandy was also a bank. Look at the bright side, you got your hamster back 😃🐹I get what you’re saying and, to have all of the cash and equipment that I rightfully earned would help immensely, however, it would be highly unrealistic and, I guarantee, someone here would be complaining about that. It’s one of those situations where you’re going to upset somebody.As for all of the missions that don’t seem to have a payoff...? I played them for XP and I liked playing them, in general. Games are going to have filler like this. If only the main quest were present, you’d be playing the Modern Warfare Trilogy, games that everyone said were too short.That’s how I view the side quests in Mass Effect 2, fun filler. And that’s pretty much all I have to say about it. It’s also only my opinion and has been since the original launch, and certainly isn’t going to change. So, to each their own…

This is how i see it, mass effect legendary edition was first an upgrade to the old edition from the point of graphics, second reason was to bring back the trilogy to the new generation, from an old veteran it was great to re-live the life of shepard and the story that was and still is up to date the most epic story, great character dev and it made me live in the moment, it made me feel like i was doing all that, making a better world one united galaxy build on trust and friendship.Another reason must be to make a path to the next game ME 4. I am not a fan of buying a remake version of a game, i think that the game has his own magic based on the year it was made. I love the only trilogy and for me the story andcharacters its 1000 times more important then graphics.For me i was one of the lucky ones, my pc build did not heave any problems like crashes, and story linked bugs, only some very small ones chat did not creat a problem, i loved to play the legendary edition with new graphics. I am happy to say that i am happy that i made the pre-order and i can't wait for the next game, it will take some time but still maybe we will get another update on ME 4 this year. And i hope for the future that they will focus on what made the trilogy epic and unique, don't follow the example of Ubisoft and what they did with Assassin's creed last 2 titles, i was a big fan if AC games, but now for me AC is dead and from what i found out about the future of the AC series it will get a lot more bad.

@draconiam Honestly, never cared about achievements as I don't have any one to brag about and I take satisfaction on playing the game more than looking at some badges. And if I'm not mistaken there are more achievements removed in remastered version like playing most of ME1 with a specific companion, leveling achievements and I guess some about combat. Overall I think is more appropriate to set new achievements after complete integration of DLC.For ME2 I kind of played last part twice only to see if the achievements are impossible to gain as many posts here are suggesting. There was a problem indeed as the achievements on Origin and those in game were triggered in same time and only one was validated (the one on Origin). Mostly when the achievement was granted in same time with a new scene loading. I did got all anyway by playing again the last part of the game.In terms of normal play I always follow paragon only in ME1 with romance Liara and lose Ash, lots of renegate choices on ME2 since there are more appropriate in terms of story and no romance, combined paragon/renegate in ME3 and romance Liara.Back to original topic, this remastered worth for me every single coin. Hell, the missing ME2 DLC were jalf of the remastered price so hell yeah I had to buy it. Also I did waste lots of time and effort with all original games to make them look better and still far from how they look being done by BW.

Adding a friendly reminder here. Keep to the topic and not derail it to political or economical conversations. Thank you. /Atic

@draconiam I would assume the Legendary Edition was made because the community asked for it, for years and over and over again. Also of course because it seemed profitable. This this is the point, these are companies with hundreds and hundreds of employees, they need to make profit. That is just a fact of life, you can call it "cash grab" or greedy but it remains what it is, capitalism. Unfortunately, afaik, we don't have a better system on this planet. 😉 Bioware has also clarified that it is a remaster, not a remake, and that there would be no changes to the storyline. Everyone can decide whether they want to spend money on it under this circumstances or stick with the original games. Are there bugs? Old and new ones? Yes, and that is also just Inevitable. The MELE is just 4 weeks out now, give them time to fix the bugs, if they do it is fine, If not, you have every right to complain. btw, I think you want to tag EA_David. Edit:Typo.

Mass Effect Legendary Edition Purpose

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draconiam
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
Adding to the list of things that should have been taken the time to incorporate is a conversation Shepard was going to have with Ashley Williams (possibly prior to Cerberus Headquarters) related to his/her revival, the usual excuse was that it dared to question Christianity yet we are in a gaming space were the ethically of genocide is constanly discussed and that we see the care the developers invested in the aliens cultures and belief and how they had adapted to the current state of their Galactic knowledge, why didn't humanity had a few dedicated sections exploring how their culture and beliefs evolved? If anything it felt like humanity was eager to get rid of anything they grew up with in order to play nice with the Council which could have struck a nerve on how misguided The Illusive Man really was.
Here is the conversation in question:
https://m.imgur.com/Q9DmN
draconiam
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
@EA_Dave
Hello, I seem to have a problem with the Forum, apperantly someone liked this and when I went to check on the like the page gave me an error and now that we are it, I notices that there was a comment in this blog post and now it's been removed, did the user removed it or something else happened?
Mrgaby95
5 years ago
This is how i see it, mass effect legendary edition was first an upgrade to the old edition from the point of graphics, second reason was to bring back the trilogy to the new generation, from an old veteran it was great to re-live the life of shepard and the story that was and still is up to date the most epic story, great character dev and it made me live in the moment, it made me feel like i was doing all that, making a better world one united galaxy build on trust and friendship.Another reason must be to make a path to the next game ME 4. I am not a fan of buying a remake version of a game, i think that the game has his own magic based on the year it was made. I love the only trilogy and for me the story andcharacters its 1000 times more important then graphics.
For me i was one of the lucky ones, my pc build did not heave any problems like crashes, and story linked bugs, only some very small ones chat did not creat a problem, i loved to play the legendary edition with new graphics. I am happy to say that i am happy that i made the pre-order and i can't wait for the next game, it will take some time but still maybe we will get another update on ME 4 this year. And i hope for the future that they will focus on what made the trilogy epic and unique, don't follow the example of Ubisoft and what they did with Assassin's creed last 2 titles, i was a big fan if AC games, but now for me AC is dead and from what i found out about the future of the AC series it will get a lot more bad.
holger1405
Hero+
5 years ago
@draconiam

I would assume the Legendary Edition was made because the community asked for it, for years and over and over again.

Also of course because it seemed profitable.

This this is the point, these are companies with hundreds and hundreds of employees, they need to make profit.

That is just a fact of life, you can call it "cash grab" or greedy but it remains what it is, capitalism.

Unfortunately, afaik, we don't have a better system on this planet. 😉

Bioware has also clarified that it is a remaster, not a remake, and that there would be no changes to the storyline.

Everyone can decide whether they want to spend money on it under this circumstances or stick with the original games.

Are there bugs? Old and new ones? Yes, and that is also just Inevitable.

The MELE is just 4 weeks out now, give them time to fix the bugs, if they do it is fine, If not, you have every right to complain.

btw, I think you want to tag EA_David.

Edit:Typo.
draconiam
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
@holger1405 They took the time to fix a ton of issues from ME 1-2 mostly regarding bigged conversations, so why they didn't bothered to do that for the third game which is infamous for them? Thanks for the tag @EA_David.
draconiam
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
@Mrgaby95 There was a space for the original endings but knowing Bioware today they had two years out of three plus a multiplayer component to add to the third game to booth, they cahnged some things for the first and second games so why was the third game ignored? No credits import bonus, no weapons and armor import bonus, all that research on the Normandy SR-2 was left without meaning (except three Normandy upgrades) and the N7 missions don't have much of an impact (finding Prothean ruins and other things) unlike most of ME1 side quests. For me it's a 7/10 not because the LE is bad but because they had nearly 10 years to fix those issues and chose to give a near perfect remaster.
dominolabustier
5 years ago
@draconiam

I have to chime in on this. Shepard, in Mass Effect 2 was working with Cerberus. It translates perfectly that none of this would be available to Shepard who, from the beginning, is under house arrest.

At the end of The Arrival, Admiral Hacket states clearly that Shepard will have to return and answer for all that he did. Vega tells Ashley that Shepard was under constant surveillance while under arrest.

There is simply no way that he was going to have access to anything gained while working with Cerberus. And his house arrest being interrupted by Reapers, escaping across a ruined, war ravaged city, and boarding a Normandy that only then was given under his command, did Shepard have any chance of access. Heck, Shepard’s reinstatement wasn’t even made official until after Mars.

Unfortunately, by that time, the only accessible items that would be around would be on the fleeing Normandy SR2. My point being: from a long-play standpoint it kind of sucks, but, from a role playing aspect, to have anything more would violate continuity. Unless the Normandy was also a bank. Look at the bright side, you got your hamster back 😃🐹

I get what you’re saying and, to have all of the cash and equipment that I rightfully earned would help immensely, however, it would be highly unrealistic and, I guarantee, someone here would be complaining about that. It’s one of those situations where you’re going to upset somebody.

As for all of the missions that don’t seem to have a payoff...? I played them for XP and I liked playing them, in general. Games are going to have filler like this. If only the main quest were present, you’d be playing the Modern Warfare Trilogy, games that everyone said were too short.

That’s how I view the side quests in Mass Effect 2, fun filler. And that’s pretty much all I have to say about it. It’s also only my opinion and has been since the original launch, and certainly isn’t going to change. So, to each their own…
draconiam
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
@dominolabustier I mean if the Alliance can get their hands on the minerals on the ship then why wouldn't they set aside the funds Shepard collected or maybe the Shadow Broker would have helped in some aspect knowing the banks working for it.
sweetpoison0011
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
@draconiam This game is remastered not a remake therefore the original story is kept intact. It means it's only cosmetics and a better integration of DLC.
"Cash grab"??? is that what it is? Updated graphic and pack all 3 games with >40 DLC into a product cheaper than original is it "cash grab"? Your topic looks more like a hate campaign from where I stand.
draconiam
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
@sweetpoison0011 At the rate it goes 75% of fixes went to ME1 (which ironically were a lot of bugged lines and situations happening with ME 1-2 but not the third game) and then 25% changes went to ME2 (players can no longer get the Stasis bonus power from Liara because the Reminense Trophy was removed, that also awarded the Paramour trophy for players who had romanced T'soni if they chose to rekindle the romance) while ME3 bugged conversations and missing features: no credit transfer, the research Shepard performed in the Normandy on both weapons and other things could have been applied as a War Asset depending both on how much they did and how it can potentially affect other groups working for Shepard, the fuel capacity upgrade was removed without explination without concern that the exploration in places without fuel depots increased and some of the side quests in ME2 can also add or remove points to the War Effort (like the colony where Shepard can have to destroy to save an industrial zone or the other way around.

We can all enjoy this Remaster, but I won't be settling for the excuse that we have a tremendous content in our hands that we lacked before in the way of that original over reliance on DLC to give the developers a pass for everything. The Bioware forums had a better dedicated list of all the bugged content in ME3, might be a good hint as to why they closed them so people didn't start noticing it. A 7/10 is a score they deserve and not more.
If this is how much they care for their games of past then that sets the stage for continued badly managed content.