I just attempted my first T7 raid using Dengar today and that trash heap could not have been more disappointing. Even when he applied Tenacity Down on both the Pig Captain and the Rancor, my TM effects were STILL GETTING RESISTED. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the entire point of Tenacity Down was so that no effects could be resisted. Now if they're still getting resisted, even when TD has been applied, then what is the point of it?In any case, I'm infuriated right now because all this time I've invested into Dengar has been a complete waste. Normally I can do around 3 mil in P1/P2, so I was expecting being able to maybe solo P2 all the way this time, but I barely solo'd P1 with Dengar. If you've been farming Dengar for this reason, stop now because you will be entirely disappointed. Has anyone else experienced this? Or did I maybe forget how to read what Tenacity Down does?

There's always a 15% chance to resist, regardless of tenacity down. Not sure that is what you are noticing and you just ran into bad RNG. Maybe others who've used Dengar in raids can help.

The changer the text for TD a few times...I'm sad to hear thin. I have him 50/100 G8 I think....I like useing him and he is pretty good all round.

There is still a 15% chance to resist. However today I experienced really bad RNG (I don't use Dengar however), because I got resisted way more often than in other raids. Got dodged 10+ times and Teebo was almost never in stealth. Needless to say I could not finish the first phase where normally I can do this eyes closed.RNG is a bîtch

https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/62566/t7-raid-first-dengar-experience-6-3m-damagehttp://i.imgur.com/Y2sFtco.jpgProbably with right mods and G10 you will get better results.But there's always the RNG factor in it... It's not my team btw, I'm still *5 on Dengar.

"DarthZannaH;629064" wrote:https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/62566/t7-raid-first-dengar-experience-6-3m-damagehttp://i.imgur.com/Y2sFtco.jpgProbably with right mods and G10 you will get better results.But there's always the RNG factor in it... It's not my team btw, I'm still *5 on Dengar.My Teebo and Dengar are both g8, but my g8 Teebo with QGJ, GS, Phasma, and 5s got 3.6 mil the other day. It's just disappointing that after all this time I would have been better off finishing gearing Teebo than wasting my time with Dengar and have the same amount of resists in a raid.

Dengar the Disappointment: Can Dengar be used without Rex

benacrow
9 years ago
"KingPin;633073" wrote:
I've heard teebo lead, QGJ, scout, dengar, EE is good team to use still levelling dengar at the moment so I'm yet to try this combo out

Let me know when you do because that would prove Dengar doesn't require Rex to solo p1/p2
benacrow
9 years ago
"KingBrando;647014" wrote:
I honestly don't know why everyone is saying Dengar sucks. I have him at 4 stars and the only reason he's weak is because I haven't invested any time on upgrading him. But for where he is at, he is a decent character. Yes, I know he may not be the strongest guy I have, but he has a great amount of health and he can give as much as he can take.

We're not commenting on him as a general character, but more his ability to improve your raid score. It still seems he doesn't add much unless you have Rex too.
benacrow
9 years ago
"KvotheTheRevan;646972" wrote:
"benacrow;632953" wrote:
"vynn;632936" wrote:
benacrow, you should post the speed a potency of everyone in your raid squad.

Without Dengar:
Teebo 140 sp 75% pot
QGJ 163 sp 105% pot
Phasma 173 sp 65% pot
GS 182 sp
5s 143 sp 55% pot
This team consistently got 3.6 mil

What mods are on 5s? and what gear level?

I'm asking because I'm currently stuck at around soloing p1 and slightly into p2, totalling around 2.2 million usually, maybe 2.3, and one time 2.5 with great rng. My squad is Teebo, EE, QGJ, GS, Phasma. I'm trying to figure out whether to add 5s or Dengar. Dengar isn't quite there yet, around 60/100. But 5s is 7* and I just got him to gear 9, but I don't know which mods to put on him. I'm thinking potency now because it is so low. Man the gear at 9 is a pain to get. I see there's a scanner at g10 that would obviously help.

My 5s is g9 and has potency mods to bring him at around 55% potency, which does fine. At g9 he'll have enough h/p to withstand as much as everyone else.

Currently I've been trying Teebo QGJ 5s GS and Tusken, and it's been getting me 3+ mil every time. I don't have EE (or Rex *grumble grumble*) but I'm sure he adds a good amount. Phasma really isn't necessary from my various comp tests.
rotorfun
9 years ago
I haven't tried dengar in heroic since he's only 6 stars.... But seriously considering if Dengar is even worth it.

I have run Dengar with with around 50 potency and no speed mods. My best was 1.7 million. If Dengar reduces Tenacity to 0 only leaving 15% chance of resists I should see better numbers than my guild mates running with out Dengar with only Teebo QGJ Rey 5s and forgot the 5th. I could understand my build might take longer but I should see better results than this based on the potency issue.

The thing that drives me nuts is whether TR, ES, or QGJ sometimes it won't decrease TM but no resisted. So my big question is how effective is that 55% or 65% chance, and if it's resisted or not and don't see it displayed.
WildGrunt
9 years ago
Well, I did a trial video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5hjTUhjCvU
xDaymax
9 years ago
That OP is just so funny, because you don't know how to use Dengar or had an awfull RNG you post here like a crybaby "useless whine whine whine".

Well with Dengar it is easy to solo P1 up to P4, if Teebo doesnt fu.ck you with breaking his stealth on the 1st turn and RNG says "no". but overall its the only way to solo P2-P3 because the rancor has way too much Tenacity for Teebo / Rex or Scout to maintain a good TM down chain (except big luck again of course, but 90% Potency isn't enouth by far).

For the record I am still testing him, did 4.5M on 1st attempt and 5.5 (P3) on the second, got unlucky with 3 resist in a row from teebo that screw me, but overall the rancor only hit me 1 time during the whole P2 phase.
C_Sandurz
9 years ago
I was able to solo P1 and P2 and do a total of 5.5 million with dengar completely f2p. I used teebo, EE, scout, qgj, dengar. I definitely got good luck on that attempt because my prior best with Dengar in my squad was 2.5 million. The key to the success of soloing the raid would be speed, speed, and more speed (my opinion). Once you get to the rancor, you need to have as many chances to reduce TM as possible. I can't recall the speeds of my characters off hand, but they have a lot of room to get faster (I think my scout only has + 12 speed). I truly believe it is possible to solo the raid with this setup if all the toons are fast enough. Rex (which I don't have) does not have to rely on rng quite as much as scout, thus he is the better choice if you have some disposable income to spend.
benacrow
9 years ago
"Dayma;647286" wrote:
That OP is just so funny, because you don't know how to use Dengar or had an awfull RNG you post here like a crybaby "useless whine whine whine".

Well with Dengar it is easy to solo P1 up to P4, if Teebo doesnt **** you with breaking his stealth on the 1st turn and RNG says "no". but overall its the only way to solo P2-P3 because the rancor has way too much Tenacity for Teebo / Rex or Scout to maintain a good TM down chain (except big luck again of course, but 90% Potency isn't enouth by far).

For the record I am still testing him, did 4.5M on 1st attempt and 5.5 (P3) on the second, got unlucky with 3 resist in a row from teebo that screw me, but overall the rancor only hit me 1 time during the whole P2 phase.

If you've read the other comments, you'll see that this thread has evolved into a 'does Dengar need Rex in raids' thread.

I've attempted using Teebo QGJ Dengar Phasma and TR but I've come no where close to replicating my guildmates' scores who have used Dengar with Rex.
benacrow
9 years ago
"C_Sandurz;647361" wrote:
I was able to solo P1 and P2 and do a total of 5.5 million with dengar completely f2p. I used teebo, EE, scout, qgj, dengar. I definitely got good luck on that attempt because my prior best with Dengar in my squad was 2.5 million. The key to the success of soloing the raid would be speed, speed, and more speed (my opinion). Once you get to the rancor, you need to have as many chances to reduce TM as possible. I can't recall the speeds of my characters off hand, but they have a lot of room to get faster (I think my scout only has + 12 speed). I truly believe it is possible to solo the raid with this setup if all the toons are fast enough. Rex (which I don't have) does not have to rely on rng quite as much as scout, thus he is the better choice if you have some disposable income to spend.

That's good to hear ES works! Do you have his abilities omega'd or anything?
specter0010
9 years ago
Teboo, QGJ, Rey/GS, dengar, 5s? That's what I going to try tomorow. Will it work? I get about 2.5mil now.