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- Forumers in 2019: "I hate these mirror matches! Revan broke the game! Please make more counters!"
Forumers in 2020: "I hate all these counters! GLs broke the game! Please make more mirror matches!"
Kudos to the forum on being consistently inconsistent. - Persimius6 years agoSeasoned Ace
"Lio;c-2117322" wrote:
Forumers in 2019: "I hate these mirror matches! Revan broke the game! Please make more counters!"
Forumers in 2020: "I hate all these counters! GLs broke the game! Please make more mirror matches!"
Kudos to the forum on being consistently inconsistent.
I feel like you missed the point of the thread. - Darth_DeVito6 years agoSeasoned Ace
"Slaveen;c-2117156" wrote:
"Rosstheboss89;c-2117155" wrote:
Far from an exploit. It works under certain circumstances, requires mods a lot of the player base do not have. I’m in a day 1 shard and those without GL kylo or Rey, still get past kylo easily but are always asking for demods on Rey teams.
Have they gotten past SLKR easily in the last 11 hours? Because he got a MAJOR buff 11 hours ago.
Someone on Reddit beat pst-buff SLKR with CUP. I'm not even kidding.
Of course CUP wasn't essential to this team. Padme, Fives, one other 501st clone, GAS, any other GR. The AI won't use AOE / use SLKR's ultimate while Fives is alive because of his sacrifice. Everyone attacks Fives, who keeps being healed by Padme, while GAS picks the team apart. Boom.
DRM + Wat reportedly still works too. That makes 2 counters for GL gender-swapped Luke and 2 for our dear supreme leader Darth Snape. Balanced as all things should be. Now can we stop singing sad whale songs and accept that every meta has a counter? Thanks. "StarSon;c-2117323" wrote:
"Lio;c-2117322" wrote:
Forumers in 2019: "I hate these mirror matches! Revan broke the game! Please make more counters!"
Forumers in 2020: "I hate all these counters! GLs broke the game! Please make more mirror matches!"
Kudos to the forum on being consistently inconsistent.
I feel like you missed the point of the thread.
Exactly. Rey user’s investment wasn’t worth it compared to SLKR’s users.- Persimius6 years agoSeasoned Ace
"Slaveen;c-2117330" wrote:
"StarSon;c-2117323" wrote:
"Lio;c-2117322" wrote:
Forumers in 2019: "I hate these mirror matches! Revan broke the game! Please make more counters!"
Forumers in 2020: "I hate all these counters! GLs broke the game! Please make more mirror matches!"
Kudos to the forum on being consistently inconsistent.
I feel like you missed the point of the thread.
Exactly. Rey user’s investment wasn’t worth it compared to SLKR’s users.
Well, I disagree with that statement. She's still just as viable in arena, she's a better defense team in TW/GA, and at least through 3 phases she's an easy 4/4 in LSTB. The only clear advantage for SLKR is STR, where Rey is complete garbage. - Ah, man... you guys deleted Ultra's picture. That comment was great.
"Slaveen;c-2117176" wrote:
"Malevolan;c-2117168" wrote:
Yes let's just kill all counters and make everything mirror matches just think how fun that'll be!
I didn’t complain until they basically did that for SLKR. SLKR can only be beaten by a mirror or by Rey now, so it’s only fair to do the same for Rey.
and I thought that was incredibly stupid of CG to do."Darth_DeVito;c-2117326" wrote:
"Slaveen;c-2117156" wrote:
"Rosstheboss89;c-2117155" wrote:
Far from an exploit. It works under certain circumstances, requires mods a lot of the player base do not have. I’m in a day 1 shard and those without GL kylo or Rey, still get past kylo easily but are always asking for demods on Rey teams.
Have they gotten past SLKR easily in the last 11 hours? Because he got a MAJOR buff 11 hours ago.
Someone on Reddit beat pst-buff SLKR with CUP. I'm not even kidding.
Of course CUP wasn't essential to this team. Padme, Fives, one other 501st clone, GAS, any other GR. The AI won't use AOE / use SLKR's ultimate while Fives is alive because of his sacrifice. Everyone attacks Fives, who keeps being healed by Padme, while GAS picks the team apart. Boom.
DRM + Wat reportedly still works too. That makes 2 counters for GL gender-swapped Luke and 2 for our dear supreme leader Darth Snape. Balanced as all things should be. Now can we stop singing sad whale songs and accept that every meta has a counter? Thanks.
and watch them cater to the SLK players who complain about this counter and CG "fixes" it with more Kylo buffs to make sure he 1 shots Fives with every hit or something, instead of realizing that strategy only works because sith trooper always assists so don't run sith trooper.. and it doesn't work.
But as I've talked to a SLK owner, he doesn't want to have to think, he paid money, he just wants to win by virtue of him paying money for a character.- MasterSeedy6 years agoSeasoned Ace@Malevolan
Replace CUP with zBarriss and taking out ST might not make as big a difference as you think. [I cannot be sure of this, of course, since I can't test it yet, but the point is that CUP adds nothing and therefore there's a lot of room for improvement on the Padmé squad as well. Just making that one change to the SLKR squad, then, shouldn't be considered automagically sufficient.
Of course, your main comment seems to be here:But as I've talked to a SLK owner, he doesn't want to have to think, he paid money, he just wants to win by virtue of him paying money for a character.
and while I don't think that swapping out ST guarantees victory for SLKR (again, not having tested it), I do think that this attitude is prevalent amongst a lot of top players. And, yes. I agree with you that it's a terrible attitude.
That said, I sympathize with part of that attitude as well. Not the idea that I should always win if I pay money, but with the part that there's a lot going on in the game, and I don't want every battle to be difficult. There's a huge amount of work we put in over time to farm and gear toons. I like knowing that a particular counter works, and then building that counter from scratch, and then feeling confident whenever I send that counter into battle.
There was a while when Nego battles were frustratingly susceptible to RNG for me. Eventually I maxed out Kenobi (he had been r6) and boosted a couple bit players, and swapped out one reinforcement for Cassian to dispel all taunts and then call a killer assist right away while key enemy ships were vulnerable. Now I'm back to never losing and that's nice. I like the confidence.
So I understand the appeal of going into a match with confidence. But I dislike that people think themselves entitled to buy it with cash and I think that if you don't have that confidence then, in the vast majority of cases, you should not be complaining on the forum about it. I'd have to check, but I don't think I ever once complained here that Nego battles were too hard.
When SLKR players are soloing HSTR and then complaining that they only win every arena battle on offense, but can still be beat on defense, well, look upon the field where I grow my Freuds, and see that it is barren. - I think my biggest complaint is the Kylo ultimate loop vs rey, which makes PvP a major pain, and the fact that rey is hot garbage in HSTR compared to Kylo. If they'd fix those 2 issues, I think I'd have less buyers remorse for rey. But as it stands I'd trade my ult rey for 80% of max towards kylo and farm the last 20% to get kylo instead.
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