GP Matchmaking & “Fluff”

Kyno even you should know this algorithm is horrible because Ships over-inflate GP by a milestone. Someone farming Hounds Tooth will end up facing someone who didn't focus hard on ships. Character GP is more important since that is where the win/loss of Grand Arena will be judging from the points distribution.

Matchmaking should've accounted for multiple factors than just base overall GP

EDIT: you have an olympic runner and a swimmer competing for a 100m race in this case. Just because you have two athletes that are 1st in their field competing doesn't mean its fair

"Gair;c-1712791" wrote:
Factors that should have been included.

- Average arena rank
- Numerical number of G12s
- Quality of mods (15/20+ speeds)

I'd add "ownership of Revan" to that list. I don't currently have anything that can take a strong Revan team down, so if someone puts him on defense, I'm boned.

"Kyno;c-1712780" wrote:
Place 2 Olympic level runners in a race, the can both have the best mile times and may even be close.

One runs marathons and the other shorter races.

They are equals athletically and in many respects, but one will have a clear advantage in a marathon.

It's about how you build your roster and how you develop in the game. If you developed more competitively or not. That's the players choice.

No one in their right mind would put these to differing runners in the same category.
So your example proves the point you are arguing against.

No player/guild should have an advantage over other players that are unlocking and spending resources on their characters/ships, plain and simple just because they aren’t. Makes no sense. Shouldn’t matter if those players are meta or not. In fact, it should be the complete opposite imo. It’s like CG is telling players not to spend. Not to level up chars unless you absolutely need them. Players should be rewarded for building up their rosters.

Paper zombie....

Paper zombie...........

Paper zombie....................

Seriously, we all know the tragic story of Paper zombie. Why should GP matchmaking be any different.

Yeah, I’m gonna get killed in my matchup because of my collector focus. If we were posting more than six squads, my depth might shine through, but as it is, I don’t expect to do well in this mode.

Just a suggestion: in my GP range, both sides post 6 D squads. For simplicity’s sake, let’s suppose we’ll both use 6 squads on offense. That’s 12 total squads, 60 total characters. Maybe a fairer way to do the matchmaking would be to look at the total GP of each player’s top 60 toons? Or something like that.

I think whichever way you do it youll get complaints. If someone worked really hard on their roster and was only putting resources into things, managing them carefully. He has put a lot of thought into his roster. why should he have to go up against someone who didnt put up as much effort, but simply had the game longer and so has much more resources (because that person will have similar gear 12, but lots more lower down).

I do understand that people made decisions, only to be told of consequences after the fact can be frustrating though. but if my opponent deliberately ignored mods, why should he be paired with other who ignored mods? Mine arent godlike, but my opponent has a leia with 226 speed as his fastest toon. hes about 2.7 mil gp. So yes, id expect him to be paired poorly because they havent bothered to work on their roster

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"Vicarious;c-1712793" wrote:
I respect you Kyno and you may still remember me, but that’s some **** right there. Sorry to say.

Players are being put at a disadvantage for leveling up characters, plain and simple. This has been an issue with TW matchmaking from day one. It’s now even a bigger problem for those who want to be competitive in Grand arena.

I agree players should be selective when using their resources but shouldn’t be at a disadvantage because they have mods on all their chars and etc.

TB a guild needs high GP to get the max stars. So we have one game mode where CG is saying Work on Everything, it will be beneficial and then we have two other game modes where CG is basically saying the opposite. Besides all that, Paper zombie. Does anything else really need to be said....

Paper zombie

In ONE game mode. TB rewards you for leveling all characters and penalizes players that don’t. This is the inverse of that. Both types of players have a game mode tailor-made for their style of collection and focus.

It’s ok to have both kinds of modes.

"Obi1_son;c-1712900" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1712780" wrote:
Place 2 Olympic level runners in a race, the can both have the best mile times and may even be close.

One runs marathons and the other shorter races.

They are equals athletically and in many respects, but one will have a clear advantage in a marathon.

It's about how you build your roster and how you develop in the game. If you developed more competitively or not. That's the players choice.

No one in their right mind would put these to differing runners in the same category.
So your example proves the point you are arguing against.

the category is olympic runners. just like the category for this matching is players of SWGOH.

how each runner trains is how each player develops their roster.

if you want to be good at TW/GA you need to be team and counter team focused. if you do this the rest takes care of itself.
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"Ultra;c-1712890" wrote:
Kyno even you should know this algorithm is horrible because Ships over-inflate GP by a milestone. Someone farming Hounds Tooth will end up facing someone who didn't focus hard on ships. Character GP is more important since that is where the win/loss of Grand Arena will be judging from the points distribution.

Matchmaking should've accounted for multiple factors than just base overall GP

EDIT: you have an olympic runner and a swimmer competing for a 100m race in this case. Just because you have two athletes that are 1st in their field competing doesn't mean its fair

we dont know all the factors involved, we dont know if GP is anything considered, or if they use just character GP. so stating it is horrible is a little unfair.

Crumb literally said that GP is the only factor they are using to matchmaking

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"Kyno;c-1712947" wrote:

"Ultra;c-1712945" wrote:
Crumb literally said that GP is the only factor they are using to matchmaking

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Where? you added the link after i wrote this.

I will ping him for clarification on that. because overall post on GA, sounds different than that.


This is what i have seen about matchmaking. it sounds like they are using the TW matching system. just tuned to 1 player.

Umm... I think that "similar collection" part is broken.

I have seen some of the rosters of my guild mates opponents

total gp is very close

one has revan and traya one does not
you know 2 of the most important tw and thus ga charaters...

from what I have seen this looks like a straight up gp paring.

Yes it is a small sample size but looks like "similar collection" == similar GP