I had posted some of this in another reply but I thought it was worth its own discussion.After spending over a month and hours a day of knocking my head against the HT wall as a new player (!Attention developers!), I have to say that HT along with the lopsided shard I'm in is just a motivation/fun killer, a.k.a motivation/fun suck. 8 out of 11 fleet squads ahead of me in fleet arena have HT and have anywhere from 100k to 600k GP more than me. They are mostly level 85 and I just hit 82. And it's been that uneven since level 60. It doesn't sound like much but it's months of farming difference for F2P. Not to mention the ever growing earnings difference in crystals since teams with HT are just about always ahead of me. You can't even start to farm Bossk until level 85 aside from the store and all I've been doing from the start is concentrating on farming ships and pilots for power. Tie Advanced is about the only option but that's out of reach for me too at this point. This feels like such a waste of time and it's a total bummer!Let's game this out from a F2P perspective. Farming HT and Bossk to a competitive level in my shard is 1-2 mos away for me to reach level 85 and another 2 mos to 7 star Bossk. And by that time the other teams will all have Hans Millenium Falcon which you can't get without HT and Bossk!!! How the "wack" am I this far behind in a relatively new shard? Hello developers? I'd be able to deal with the bad shard if it wasn't for the additionally lopsided HT. Bad shard and crappy meta ship design!! Ally Code: 887-344-419

Update: After concentrating solely on fleet for my entire time playing this game, I was able to farm BH ships and get HMF (broke down and bought one BH ship pack). I now split first place with my fellow top five HMF squads. Funny thing is with all the HMFs the main differentiation is still who has the biggest HT. So I guess this will last until Nute's capital ship comes and the bugs/HT take over!! Hopefully it lasts a little longer so I can finally get a little payout and go after a decent arena squad.

"Dk_rek;c-1871071" wrote:"f82bd;c-1869676" wrote:Update: After concentrating solely on fleet for my entire time playing this game, I was able to farm BH ships and get HMF (broke down and bought one BH ship pack). I now split first place with my fellow top five HMF squads. Funny thing is with all the HMFs the main differentiation is still who has the biggest HT. So I guess this will last until Nute's capital ship comes and the bugs/HT take over!! Hopefully it lasts a little longer so I can finally get a little payout and go after a decent arena squad.Nothing is going to take over.... My Favorite part of this game is dead... They don't care, they have ignored ship guys for years..... Really? Ships 2.0, new ships and among them a legendary non-capital ship, adding crystals to rewards, including ships in (some) GAs, galactic runs (or whatever the EP / Ebon event was called).... It looks to me, that there's plenty of things going on. You may not like, what they do, but ships are in no way ignored.

It is how it is. Everyone has it same. F2P players need to farm for a long time. P2W players will just buy enough crystals to speed it up significantly. It took me about 4 months to get Bossk 7* G12 and Hound Tooth 7* and Millennium Falcon was released almost immediately after that. You are F2P. Don't expect to beat P2P players on top places in your shard. If you don't accept that, you better stop playing any competitive game offering micro transactions.

Good point but I wonder if it's just a p2p issue. It seems it's also shard creation issue. I'm about 500k GP and there someone with 1100k GP in the same shard. That's pretty goofy.

Shards are created as the previous one fills and are made of groups of people who open that game mode at the same time. I believe fleets are 5k and arena is 20k players.The system works very well for arena because people are generally opening that game mode up early on in the development, fleet is a little different. There are times when players return to the game and unlock ships and can be placed in a young shard, and other ways that the mix will seem odd. It will all even out as time goes on, but yes anyone who is $$ will gain/keep a time advantage over others.

Houndstooth and Uneven Fleet Shard Sucks

Da_Bauers
New Spectator
6 years ago
And there aren't mods on ships. (Dear RNGesus please don't add this feature) As long as star, level, abilities, and crew power are the same, the ships are the same. It becomes a pure RNG slug fest!
466747143
6 years ago
hahahahahahah
Its NOT Fllet arena any more. Its HOUNDS TOOTH ARENA.
FLEET ARENA IS DEAD.
with this way, ALL the rest ships are for junkyard. and why not?
We have the HT which taunts, takes turn meter no matter slower than turtle, dispell its debuffs alone, when taking laser shots or concussion missiles increases its health and protection, oh and i forgot, makes also coffee, pizza, or win an entire fleet alone.
Gratz! Told you my tactic, NO PAY ANYMORE.
Unless this freaking situation wont change, soon i ll LEAVE this game.
dkreknumone
6 years ago
"f82bd;c-1869676" wrote:
Update: After concentrating solely on fleet for my entire time playing this game, I was able to farm BH ships and get HMF (broke down and bought one BH ship pack). I now split first place with my fellow top five HMF squads. Funny thing is with all the HMFs the main differentiation is still who has the biggest HT. So I guess this will last until Nute's capital ship comes and the bugs/HT take over!! Hopefully it lasts a little longer so I can finally get a little payout and go after a decent arena squad.

Nothing is going to take over.... My Favorite part of this game is dead... They don't care, they have ignored ship guys for years..... It's just dead....

I think this is why I've become so annoyed and negative on the forums.... Ships is dead and GA is a farce (maybe for only 2% of the players with goofy rosters) So ok 98% of the players love GA.... I'm still gonna cry because I'm in that 2% of screwed over never get a fair match player..

But ships is dead... I truly expect the boss up there to ignore them forever....way of the road bubbles...way of the road
dkreknumone
6 years ago
"Greek_Jedi_Knight;c-1793553" wrote:
hahahahahahah
Its NOT Fllet arena any more. Its HOUNDS TOOTH ARENA.
FLEET ARENA IS DEAD.
with this way, ALL the rest ships are for junkyard. and why not?
We have the HT which taunts, takes turn meter no matter slower than turtle, dispell its debuffs alone, when taking laser shots or concussion missiles increases its health and protection, oh and i forgot, makes also coffee, pizza, or win an entire fleet alone.
Gratz! Told you my tactic, NO PAY ANYMORE.
Unless this freaking situation wont change, soon i ll LEAVE this game.

look I get in early shard hounds tooth is broken, 100% broken ruins early fleet arena if the whales whaled it....

But trust me.... as you progress you will eventually not even run HT anymore.... I don't run it.... unless I put it in to make it easier for people to climb in the hopes they lay off me come payout
dkreknumone
6 years ago
"Waqui;c-1871191" wrote:
"Dk_rek;c-1871071" wrote:
"f82bd;c-1869676" wrote:
Update: After concentrating solely on fleet for my entire time playing this game, I was able to farm BH ships and get HMF (broke down and bought one BH ship pack). I now split first place with my fellow top five HMF squads. Funny thing is with all the HMFs the main differentiation is still who has the biggest HT. So I guess this will last until Nute's capital ship comes and the bugs/HT take over!! Hopefully it lasts a little longer so I can finally get a little payout and go after a decent arena squad.

Nothing is going to take over.... My Favorite part of this game is dead... They don't care, they have ignored ship guys for years.....

Really? Ships 2.0, new ships and among them a legendary non-capital ship, adding crystals to rewards, including ships in (some) GAs, galactic runs (or whatever the EP / Ebon event was called).... It looks to me, that there's plenty of things going on. You may not like, what they do, but ships are in no way ignored.

Lol ok sooooooo much going on.

So glad for all those new pointless ships serve 0 purpose.

Ships 2.0 45 reinforcement abilities. 3 of which were used pre falcon. ONE of them post falcon i get so involved and in depth i. Figuring
Which 3 to put in my reinforcements to not use with the 4th.

Galactic chase marquee sAme thing who cares (farm wise prefer chase) but gamewise Nothing to do with or use them on..... pointless farm metashift not withstanding.... jesus not like asking for a ship faction based assault battle is asking a lot.....

Honestly Waq REspectfully if you think ships is NOT ignored from the straight perspective that ther is nothing to do, except for that one legendary majority of ships are pointless including the NEW ones (still hope btw for that)
Ironicstan
6 years ago
Here is a little different perspective on HT: at first I didn't like it at all. I didn't think it ruined the meta, but it required a new strategy to beat. So I had a lot of fun creating new teams to beat HT(pre falcon. Post falcon is a different story)

Then I got a HT and started using it myself and I find that HT is actually a very balanced kit. It's role is to tank. And it tanks very well. So well that it becomes annoying to kill if you don't have a good strategy for it.

I think we are so used to being able to dispel or go around tanks in regular arena, that we forgot what a real tank should be like.

HT was never unbeatable. It doesn't have overpowered mechanics or broken synergy. It just required good strategy.

And then came the falcon. HT mixed with the falcon is just too powerful.
emvedebe
6 years ago
"Ironicstan;c-1871465" wrote:
Here is a little different perspective on HT: at first I didn't like it at all. I didn't think it ruined the meta, but it required a new strategy to beat. So I had a lot of fun creating new teams to beat HT(pre falcon. Post falcon is a different story)

Then I got a HT and started using it myself and I find that HT is actually a very balanced kit. It's role is to tank. And it tanks very well. So well that it becomes annoying to kill if you don't have a good strategy for it.

I think we are so used to being able to dispel or go around tanks in regular arena, that we forgot what a real tank should be like.

HT was never unbeatable. It doesn't have overpowered mechanics or broken synergy. It just required good strategy.

And then came the falcon. HT mixed with the falcon is just too powerful.

The falcon, even mixed with HT, isn't unbeatable either.
I'm not saying it isn't by far the most powerfull ship ingame, just like HT was at the time, but it's not like it's completely unbeatable. Imo HT didn't have a "ballanced" kit either. Sure, it's less OP than the falcon, but by comparrison to the other ships ingame at the time, HT was definately way better.
Waquira
6 years ago
"Dk_rek;c-1871415" wrote:
"Waqui;c-1871191" wrote:
"Dk_rek;c-1871071" wrote:
"f82bd;c-1869676" wrote:
Update: After concentrating solely on fleet for my entire time playing this game, I was able to farm BH ships and get HMF (broke down and bought one BH ship pack). I now split first place with my fellow top five HMF squads. Funny thing is with all the HMFs the main differentiation is still who has the biggest HT. So I guess this will last until Nute's capital ship comes and the bugs/HT take over!! Hopefully it lasts a little longer so I can finally get a little payout and go after a decent arena squad.

Nothing is going to take over.... My Favorite part of this game is dead... They don't care, they have ignored ship guys for years.....

Really? Ships 2.0, new ships and among them a legendary non-capital ship, adding crystals to rewards, including ships in (some) GAs, galactic runs (or whatever the EP / Ebon event was called).... It looks to me, that there's plenty of things going on. You may not like, what they do, but ships are in no way ignored.

Lol ok sooooooo much going on.

So glad for all those new pointless ships serve 0 purpose.

Are you seriousl claiming that HMF, XB, IG-200, HT, Ebon Hawk, Anakin's ETA, Geonosians (reworked with shps 2.0) and Lando's Millenium Falcon don't (/didn't) serve a purpose? LOL! Get real!

Ships 2.0 45 reinforcement abilities. 3 of which were used pre falcon. ONE of them post falcon i get so involved and in depth i. Figuring Which 3 to put in my reinforcements to not use with the 4th.

More LOL! Feel free to not upgrade further reinforcement abilities than those 4. I'm happy with mine 4+, thank you.

Galactic chase marquee sAme thing who cares (farm wise prefer chase) but gamewise Nothing to do with or use them on..... pointless farm metashift not withstanding.... jesus not like asking for a ship faction based assault battle is asking a lot.....

The galactic chase in itself was new and refreshing (but yes, a crystal sink compared to marquee events). Ebon hawk is great as a counter to HMF (Requires minimum 5* and that you care about countering HMF fleets).

Honestly Waq REspectfully if you think ships is NOT ignored from the straight perspective that ther is nothing to do, except for that one legendary majority of ships are pointless including the NEW ones (still hope btw for that)

The above comments prove you wrong. It's evident, that the issue here is, that you are ignorant towards what has happened with ships the last couple of years.

~Rtas
Player_3k700krq
6 years ago
"leef;c-1871496" wrote:
"Ironicstan;c-1871465" wrote:
Here is a little different perspective on HT: at first I didn't like it at all. I didn't think it ruined the meta, but it required a new strategy to beat. So I had a lot of fun creating new teams to beat HT(pre falcon. Post falcon is a different story)

Then I got a HT and started using it myself and I find that HT is actually a very balanced kit. It's role is to tank. And it tanks very well. So well that it becomes annoying to kill if you don't have a good strategy for it.

I think we are so used to being able to dispel or go around tanks in regular arena, that we forgot what a real tank should be like.

HT was never unbeatable. It doesn't have overpowered mechanics or broken synergy. It just required good strategy.

And then came the falcon. HT mixed with the falcon is just too powerful.

The falcon, even mixed with HT, isn't unbeatable either.
I'm not saying it isn't by far the most powerfull ship ingame, just like HT was at the time, but it's not like it's completely unbeatable. Imo HT didn't have a "ballanced" kit either. Sure, it's less OP than the falcon, but by comparrison to the other ships ingame at the time, HT was definately way better.

HT has a way more balanced kit than HMF and that's why you could beat HT with a wider variety of strategies unlike HMF where only one or two strategies could beat it (mind you i have the Falcon)!
HondaEatsNissan
6 years ago
HT is a real pain but wait till you have to play falcon meta every day to get a top 10 spot where you have days ull win without losing a ship to days you lose 5 games in row vs the same team you bet first try the day before. Rng and random assist make the game unbearably hard to put up with have almost given up on many occasions not even wanting to play ships it’s that bad. Before the falcon meta my shard was mainly trawn leads but we also had all 3 other capital ships in the top 10 and any one could win. But now I’m the only mace in top 50 we have 4 tarkin 20 twarn and 25 rebel fleets of which 20 of them in the top 25