New content should be fun and exciting to draw new players and revitalize old players. All this did was create a huge outcry about reward nerfs. It’s boring, repetitive trash. You use the same few teams to do the same few actions over and over until you die or max your tier. There’s some strategy involved but limited teams means limited innovation. I’m not advocating for them to open it up to all factions, I understand the principle behind it so that’s not going to happen. What I’d like to see is the next raid not be a poorly planned pile of garbage. Pit, Tank and Sith all have phases with different aspects involved requiring different teams and strategies at different times to achieve results that changed the raid to the next phase. Krayt seems like they came up with an initial framework then never touched it or thought about it until a week before launch. Visually it’s cool but who cares? You might as well do a cut scene and pass out rewards based on the length of time someone watches. 🤷♂️

The Pit, Sith, Tank raid all have teams that you can solo with one team alone

It is a good structure. Limited factions is better for balance, theme, and incentivizes investing in them.Hitting anytime in three days is good.Currency reward system is OK.The fact that, at best, we are endlessly grinding to tread water is awful. The raid is always on. Have to hit your score every 3 days. What do we get? Nothing new to progress our rosters. No new progression (not that I want r10 or anything). No new unit. No way to speed up the relic grind due to absence of signal data rewards.Something needs to be removed from the time spent. Put more events like smugglers run on sim. The NS and Ewok events, etc. For Heaven's Sake, make conquest nodes simmable. This would be my top improvement to SWGOH right now.

"Tsfletch;d-263745" wrote:New content should be fun and exciting to draw new players and revitalize old players. All this did was create a huge outcry about reward nerfs. It’s boring, repetitive trash. You use the same few teams to do the same few actions over and over until you die or max your tier. There’s some strategy involved but limited teams means limited innovation. I’m not advocating for them to open it up to all factions, I understand the principle behind it so that’s not going to happen. What I’d like to see is the next raid not be a poorly planned pile of garbage. Pit, Tank and Sith all have phases with different aspects involved requiring different teams and strategies at different times to achieve results that changed the raid to the next phase. Krayt seems like they came up with an initial framework then never touched it or thought about it until a week before launch. Visually it’s cool but who cares? You might as well do a cut scene and pass out rewards based on the length of time someone watches. ?♂️They were too busy working on the 5th grade level of quality LOTR game.

I second the simmable conquest nodes. (Seriously who wouldn’t?) That would take out so much time and aggravation from the game plus I could dump some of the 100k+ sim tickets I have piled up lol

"Dawnsinger;c-2423465" wrote:Not sure what you’re math you’re doing, but it’s more gear for at least 80% of players getting to the 25m box (everyone who didn’t routinely get top 10 HSTR rewards), and 100% of the players getting to the 130m+ box. I assume you were one of the lucky few who benefited from being in a guild where only a few people were around for the 30 minute HSTR was open and could regularly get double the rewards everyone else got, but for the rest of us the increase in rewards, both quantity and quality is a huge improvement. "Schwartzring;c-2423459" wrote:I loved the sound of raid revamping.So far, what I've seen/felt is... a total let down.MASSIVELY reduced rewards. The Prices are so blown up that you can't get close to what you used to get.Do the math, try buying what the old raids gave you.This is a HUGE let down in a resource game. Completely removed 6 hard earned GLs & boatloads of very good relic'd teams from use in raids.I get why they are limiting teams, Heck, I agree w/ it.But the underhanded way they introduced the newest raid & only made useful teams that most people either don't have Jabba, or, are way under geared Jawas/Tuskens, or aren't a full team. (OR Jedi)I hate the phrase "slap in the face" but it was nothing less than a greedy **** bag move to invalidate the majority of rosters on the first new raid.They could have made the DeathStar raid that people have been wanting for years & picked some opening factions that could actually participate for a lot of the population. (Rebels, Empire, Scoundrels, Jedi/Sith)Or maybe the Zillo Beast from Clone Wars & use factions (GR, Seps, Clones, Jedi)And how long are we going to be stuck not using our best teams?A month, a Year? If TB is any indicator its going to be a long while before they come up with a new one.Also not sure what math you are doing....Rancor raid gear has received the only boost..G11/g12/g12+ finishers have been severely cut Credits have been cut, hurting mod progress and mod upgrade materials have been completely removed.We are not even mentioning the removal of shards that would also go to ssc for g12 and finisher pieces and the total lack of kyros.And have you looked at the price of ccb or bronzium wirings. Ohh and I forgot that they took away aeromagnifiers....Your math is lacking....

Opinion: Krayt Dragon raid just drags

NotRealUltra
Seasoned Newcomer
2 years ago
The Pit, Sith, Tank raid all have teams that you can solo with one team alone
Rokaryn_Mazel
New Spectator
2 years ago
It is a good structure. Limited factions is better for balance, theme, and incentivizes investing in them.

Hitting anytime in three days is good.

Currency reward system is OK.

The fact that, at best, we are endlessly grinding to tread water is awful. The raid is always on. Have to hit your score every 3 days. What do we get? Nothing new to progress our rosters. No new progression (not that I want r10 or anything). No new unit. No way to speed up the relic grind due to absence of signal data rewards.

Something needs to be removed from the time spent. Put more events like smugglers run on sim. The NS and Ewok events, etc.

For Heaven's Sake, make conquest nodes simmable. This would be my top improvement to SWGOH right now.
Futureburns
2 years ago
"Tsfletch;d-263745" wrote:
New content should be fun and exciting to draw new players and revitalize old players. All this did was create a huge outcry about reward nerfs. It’s boring, repetitive trash. You use the same few teams to do the same few actions over and over until you die or max your tier. There’s some strategy involved but limited teams means limited innovation. I’m not advocating for them to open it up to all factions, I understand the principle behind it so that’s not going to happen. What I’d like to see is the next raid not be a poorly planned pile of garbage. Pit, Tank and Sith all have phases with different aspects involved requiring different teams and strategies at different times to achieve results that changed the raid to the next phase. Krayt seems like they came up with an initial framework then never touched it or thought about it until a week before launch. Visually it’s cool but who cares? You might as well do a cut scene and pass out rewards based on the length of time someone watches. ?‍♂️

They were too busy working on the 5th grade level of quality LOTR game.
a3ddf5adffef79b2
New Spectator
2 years ago
I second the simmable conquest nodes. (Seriously who wouldn’t?) That would take out so much time and aggravation from the game plus I could dump some of the 100k+ sim tickets I have piled up lol
Jed_Eye27
2 years ago
"Dawnsinger;c-2423465" wrote:
Not sure what you’re math you’re doing, but it’s more gear for at least 80% of players getting to the 25m box (everyone who didn’t routinely get top 10 HSTR rewards), and 100% of the players getting to the 130m+ box.

I assume you were one of the lucky few who benefited from being in a guild where only a few people were around for the 30 minute HSTR was open and could regularly get double the rewards everyone else got, but for the rest of us the increase in rewards, both quantity and quality is a huge improvement.

"Schwartzring;c-2423459" wrote:
I loved the sound of raid revamping.

So far, what I've seen/felt is... a total let down.

MASSIVELY reduced rewards.
The Prices are so blown up that you can't get close to what you used to get.
Do the math, try buying what the old raids gave you.
This is a HUGE let down in a resource game.

Completely removed 6 hard earned GLs & boatloads of very good relic'd teams from use in raids.
I get why they are limiting teams, Heck, I agree w/ it.
But the underhanded way they introduced the newest raid & only made useful teams that most people either don't have Jabba, or, are way under geared Jawas/Tuskens, or aren't a full team. (OR Jedi)
I hate the phrase "slap in the face" but it was nothing less than a greedy **** bag move to invalidate the majority of rosters on the first new raid.

They could have made the DeathStar raid that people have been wanting for years & picked some opening factions that could actually participate for a lot of the population. (Rebels, Empire, Scoundrels, Jedi/Sith)
Or maybe the Zillo Beast from Clone Wars & use factions (GR, Seps, Clones, Jedi)

And how long are we going to be stuck not using our best teams?
A month, a Year? If TB is any indicator its going to be a long while before they come up with a new one.

Also not sure what math you are doing....

Rancor raid gear has received the only boost..

G11/g12/g12+ finishers have been severely cut
Credits have been cut, hurting mod progress and mod upgrade materials have been completely removed.

We are not even mentioning the removal of shards that would also go to ssc for g12 and finisher pieces and the total lack of kyros.

And have you looked at the price of ccb or bronzium wirings. Ohh and I forgot that they took away aeromagnifiers....

Your math is lacking....
a3ddf5adffef79b2
New Spectator
2 years ago

Also not sure what math you are doing....

Rancor raid gear has received the only boost..

G11/g12/g12+ finishers have been severely cut
Credits have been cut, hurting mod progress and mod upgrade materials have been completely removed.

We are not even mentioning the removal of shards that would also go to ssc for g12 and finisher pieces and the total lack of kyros.

And have you looked at the price of ccb or bronzium wirings. Ohh and I forgot that they took away aeromagnifiers....

Your math is lacking....

Nailed it except at the end I would have gone with “I find your lack of math disturbing”
Knewonce
Seasoned Novice
2 years ago
Don’t know what to tell you other than you’re wrong. Checkout TVFs breakdown of his multiple weeks of data collection pre-change here on the forums. Or Danius breakdown on Reddit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SWGalaxyOfHeroes/comments/13d8hl1/updated_raid_reward_comparison_postchanges/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1

Or Kidori’s breakdown based on the drop rates of the raid boxes.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1L0jvKJ2fszacimYnaYrSEq7B9giBh_VdU1D5LDzFRJ0/edit?usp=sharing

Lots of people have put in good work to figure out the old average raid rewards with a few different approaches landing on about the same answer. There’s actual good math in all this.

All of the things except Kyros you’re talking about can be bought with the new mats at the same rate or better in the new raid. The only thing we’re really losing out on is Kyros from GET2.

"Jed_Eye;c-2423483" wrote:
"Dawnsinger;c-2423465" wrote:
Not sure what you’re math you’re doing, but it’s more gear for at least 80% of players getting to the 25m box (everyone who didn’t routinely get top 10 HSTR rewards), and 100% of the players getting to the 130m+ box.

I assume you were one of the lucky few who benefited from being in a guild where only a few people were around for the 30 minute HSTR was open and could regularly get double the rewards everyone else got, but for the rest of us the increase in rewards, both quantity and quality is a huge improvement.

"Schwartzring;c-2423459" wrote:
I loved the sound of raid revamping.

So far, what I've seen/felt is... a total let down.

MASSIVELY reduced rewards.
The Prices are so blown up that you can't get close to what you used to get.
Do the math, try buying what the old raids gave you.
This is a HUGE let down in a resource game.

Completely removed 6 hard earned GLs & boatloads of very good relic'd teams from use in raids.
I get why they are limiting teams, Heck, I agree w/ it.
But the underhanded way they introduced the newest raid & only made useful teams that most people either don't have Jabba, or, are way under geared Jawas/Tuskens, or aren't a full team. (OR Jedi)
I hate the phrase "slap in the face" but it was nothing less than a greedy **** bag move to invalidate the majority of rosters on the first new raid.

They could have made the DeathStar raid that people have been wanting for years & picked some opening factions that could actually participate for a lot of the population. (Rebels, Empire, Scoundrels, Jedi/Sith)
Or maybe the Zillo Beast from Clone Wars & use factions (GR, Seps, Clones, Jedi)

And how long are we going to be stuck not using our best teams?
A month, a Year? If TB is any indicator its going to be a long while before they come up with a new one.

Also not sure what math you are doing....

Rancor raid gear has received the only boost..

G11/g12/g12+ finishers have been severely cut
Credits have been cut, hurting mod progress and mod upgrade materials have been completely removed.

We are not even mentioning the removal of shards that would also go to ssc for g12 and finisher pieces and the total lack of kyros.

And have you looked at the price of ccb or bronzium wirings. Ohh and I forgot that they took away aeromagnifiers....

Your math is lacking....
AgahnimTriforce
Seasoned Newcomer
2 years ago
Can we just sim the Krayt Dragon yet?

I do think the rewards right now are tons better than what we had..Do we have less? Yes, but we can pick and choose what we want and need which is 10x better than getting more random junk you don't need.

If you are getting less than before? Well there is a very high chance that you were being carried and earning more than you were entitled to.

Welcome to the life of earning what you provide.
pinguinbooks
2 years ago
The problem with this raid, is that we run it twice a weak and use the same teams over and over again.
It is even worse, if some teams rely on good rng and need a lot of attempts for a good score. I constantly get the 6.2m crate (in 5 battles), but it's starting to be really unfun.
It would be so great, if once cg 'fixed' the 5 attemps, that we get a sim option that submits the personal scores from the previous raid. Once you worked on teams to improve your scores, you can decide to do your 5 attempts instead.
LordDirt
New Traveler
2 years ago
246 characters and we are limited to 39 of them. Getting boring fast.