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animatedmi87's avatar
animatedmi87
Seasoned Newcomer
10 days ago

P1 and the Dagger changes are too problematic

I get that the main point of P1 is to help Executor on defense. However, Between Executor gaining P1 and the upcoming Dagger changes, this leaves nothing but Levi as a consistent Executor Counter and no consistent Levi counter at all, as the Dagger changes shuts out Sith Fighter start. 

As it stands, I think both these ships need to be changed (Or rather the change needs to change in Dagger's case). What made Sith Fighter start so good was the reduction in RNG. If your opponent has Levi, you could take your Levi on offense to counter theirs in case they had one on defense. Usually Levi on defense  even if you met against someone else who invested higher into Sith Assassin, you had a second coin flip you could win. With the proposed change, we are back to the RNGfest it was on launch of who's Levi goes first. I think if the turn meter prevention on Dagger's unique was altered to instead flip granted bonus speed on dark side enemies (So Punishing one and co would lose speed instead of gaining speed) that should allow Levi to stop Exec again without disrupting the players using Levi to beat Levi and still allow the Chimera fleet to be usable to counter any fleet that is worth putting on defense after these changes.

As much as I know it isn't going to happen, Punishing one also needs a nerf. Punishing one is the core problem of all of these issues and re-enabling one of these counters will make fleets much less taxing on players and may end up not warranting a change to dagger at all.

Also, If I had a nickel for every time the people who invested Sith Assassin got scammed because another unit in the squad was reworked to prevent turn meter gains in a mirror, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice.

  • pieeater420's avatar
    pieeater420
    Seasoned Newcomer

    Yeh thanks for ruining fleets. Arena is garbage now. Your forced to run a mirror and the whole battle comes down to opening coin flip. How does that promote a healthy game. Should have just left things alone. Its this kind of dumb crap that makes me wanna just retire this hame after 8 years and use my time and money on something less stressful and annoying. Thanks cg for ruining my experience which up till now was overall satisfactory but time and time again you break something and in the fix of said broken thing you break things even worse. I only have a 3* p1 and wasnt even using it in fa but i was totally ok with it beating Levi. And just wait till the next gac season. You will see a huge uptick in levi defense setting because by then everyone will see how broken mirrors are now and how the battle comes down to cg’s coin flip and not the player so you took the control out of the players hand and placed it all into yours. Thanks alot. 

  • Trouserdeagle's avatar
    Trouserdeagle
    Seasoned Newcomer

    The whole thing just shows a complete lack of thought. This is going to make FA complete butt.

    Solution 1: Make it so Bounty Hunters can't gain bonus TM instead of all DS ships (or exclude Sith ships)

    Solution 2: Make it so Dagger grants Breach, Target Lock and Deathmark immunity at the start of battle.

    Solution 3: Fix Punishing One instead.

    Solution 4: Remove crystals from Fleet Arena.

      • Klima_Leugner's avatar
        Klima_Leugner
        Seasoned Rookie

        i cant wrap my head around how people actually want this change lol you literally vote for losing control over all your crystal income. your only other income is from GAC and when CG feels weird again they force another kyber squish for like only the top 50 people K2 for top 200 and so on, and suddenly your crystal income halfs

    • Tenebrae-3626's avatar
      Tenebrae-3626
      Rising Veteran

      Even just one of these suggestions is better than what CG is doing right now. They release a ship intended to make Exec more challenging against Prof. Instead it allows even low star Execs with low star P1s to destroy Prof and makes Exec an incredible pain for Levi. Now with the rework they announced, they're not only invalidating all the resources put into SAss, they're also more than likely removing all the skill needed in mirror matches and making it all about RNG. Obviously we're going to have to wait until the rework is live to actually see it, but the way it's worded, unless you can somehow get rid of Bomber early on, it's basically a matter of which Levi goes first.