Potency - there is something wrong with that

RP has a 65% chance to expose, then the potency check happens. Finn, on the other hand, has a 100% chance to expose, then the potency check happens. Potency is definitely needed against raid bosses (unless tenacity down is there).

Okay, but when my RP is 104%, he should add this expose mark more than often correct ?.

"Michal;c-1022185" wrote:
Okay, but when my RP is 104%, he should add this expose mark more than often correct ?.

it all depends on the rng checks made. 104% does not = more often. Just a greater chance of success each roll.

There are 2 checks it needs to pass through:
1- will that toon expose (RP - 65%) (Finn - 100%)

2- tenacity/potency check (RP - 104%) (Finn - 60%,or whatever it is)

These 2 systems have no effect on each other. 104% potency doesn't mean your chance to expose goes up. 104%potency means you are guaranteed to give your opponent the minimum (15%) chance to resist in the second check point, but you still need to pass the first check, first.

"Kyno;c-1022218" wrote:
There are 2 checks it needs to pass through:
1- will that toon expose (RP - 65%) (Finn - 100%)

2- tenacity/potency check (RP - 104%) (Finn - 60%,or whatever it is)

These 2 systems have no effect on each other. 104% potency doesn't mean your chance to expose goes up. 104%potency means you are guaranteed to give your opponent the minimum (15%) chance to resist in the second check point, but you still need to pass the first check, first.

The world would be a much happier place if more people understood that, it seems to be a general misconception across a lot of games with percentage based stats. In LOTRO we would have players complaining that they had 80% crit chance on crafting then complain when they only crit twice in 100 craft sessions.

having that much potency on RP is a waste. Anything higher than 15% less than the tank's tenacity won't help you expose more often. Unfortunately I don't know the AAT tank's tenacity.

"leef;c-1022226" wrote:
Unfortunately I don't know the AAT tank's tenacity.

I did some experiments with Vader, Sidious, Boba and friends with varying levels of potency and see where debuffs start sticking. Not quite scientific, but potency ~50% is not enough (lots of "resist"s), and ~80% is much better so its tenacity must be somewhere between these values.

The B2 in P3 has less I think.

"Tiggus;c-1022379" wrote:

"leef;c-1022226" wrote:
Unfortunately I don't know the AAT tank's tenacity.

I did some experiments with Vader, Sidious, Boba and friends with varying levels of potency and see where debuffs start sticking. Not quite scientific, but potency ~50% is not enough (lots of "resist"s), and ~80% is much better so its tenacity must be somewhere between these values.

The B2 in P3 has less I think.

Don't forget there is a 15% base chance to resist, so it could be as high as 95-100% and anything 80% plus would result in the same chance to resist.

But it sounds like a fair way to test, don't count yourself short.

"Michal;d-105472" wrote:
Yesterday I play my resistance team on HAAT p2. I change my mods in RP and set up him 105% potency. My Finn have as I remember 60%.

What was weird that Finn put expose on tank about 90% time. RP put expose status in about 60% time. I have a feeling that that this potency mods are rubbish. Do have anybody have the same feelings ?

Hi Michal,

It's probably already answered, but there is two (2) checks:
- First check is to determine whether the debuff gets applied. This is a percentage chance ie 70%, or in some cases based on the ability description, is 100% applied.
- Second checkpoint is to determine whether the applied debuff gets resisted. This is where the Tenacity % - potency % is made. If potency is great than tenacity, then the enemy has a minimum 15% chance to resist. Unless the debuff is unavoidable or irresistible.

Tenacity down plus potency is where it works best. TFP on a Zader team or Dengar on a Teebo team.