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Frelorn74's avatar
8 years ago

Question about Tenacity and definition

I understand that any debuff goes through the multiplier Potency Vs Tenacity with some RNG to determine outcome but what I'm trying to understand or figure out is the definition for Tenacity...The games description is ability to Ward off detrimental effects and by definition ward means protect but what I'm unclear about is let's say you're all ready stunned, will your toons Tenacity percentage determin the length of the time your stunned? Higher Tenacity=Lower stun time? I have never paid close enough attention I guess to what toon is stunned vs their Tenacity but have noticed that stun times vary greatly...is length of stun determined by RNG or Tenacity % or neither? Thanks in advance...
  • scuba75's avatar
    scuba75
    Rising Rookie
    The length is detemined by the ability. All debuffs list a duration in the description.
  • Like scuba said, once you have a negative effect your stuck with it until its over. The only character I can think of that re-applies negative effects like that would be Darth Vader, but I don't think it can be resisted
  • I appreciate the response! I do understand stun is predetermined by which toon does the stunning, I guess I should have finished my thought that I was more talking about "Specia Events" where the team you're going up against is a team the developers put together!and those toons don't seem to follow the same rules...Last thing, the stun length is predetermined or supposed to be but how is that there are times when I stun another toon and it lasts for only a second or if my Aayla gets stunned there are times it goes away right away?
  • scuba75's avatar
    scuba75
    Rising Rookie
    This happens a lot more with Bariss rework. Every time she takes a turn she can remove debuffs.
    There are also reports of stuns not sticking like they should, I haven't seen it, but there are reports about it.
    Events the abilities of characters are unknown for the most part they can be different then what the players use.
  • I appreciate the response Scuba and maybe it is a bug but there have been plenty of times I will stun a 5's on the other team and it doesn't last at all, I will watch him get stunned and the very next move he's already unstunned, the reason I notice this a lot is since he's such a pain on defense and his game mechanics defy logic...lol.. if I get him stunned I'll center attack on him since he can't counter and that team doesn't have Barris which was also one of the reasons I had asked the initial question since I had thought there may be other factors involved in stun duration that I was missing...
  • scuba75's avatar
    scuba75
    Rising Rookie
    Good deal. Bariss got me for a bit till I remembered her rework.

    Try to get video of it happening, seems things like this Dev's can't always reproduce.
  • "Frelorn;796769" wrote:
    I appreciate the response! I do understand stun is predetermined by which toon does the stunning, I guess I should have finished my thought that I was more talking about "Specia Events" where the team you're going up against is a team the developers put together!and those toons don't seem to follow the same rules...Last thing, the stun length is predetermined or supposed to be but how is that there are times when I stun another toon and it lasts for only a second or if my Aayla gets stunned there are times it goes away right away?


    It depends upon how much tm they have. If they r close to 100% tm, the stun is gone as soon as they hit 100% tm and get a turn. Best to stun toons w/ low tm. Example, never waste a stun on a B2.
  • Thanks Scuba!
    Poxx, the turn meter gain and the ability to attack directly after is only for events like Heist and Tank raids and such correct? Going against a toon in arena once their stunned the TM should reset to 0 and climb from there? I just know there have been instances that I've seen a toon get stunned in arena and that stun immediately disappears which was why I had thought that maybe there were some other factors that somehow I missed in the time I've been playing...I know certain toons dispel and so forth but none of those exceptions that I know of were in play...I've stunned 5's in arena while he was on a full team no Barris or cleanser with my Aayla and my next move he's already unstunned...
  • scuba75's avatar
    scuba75
    Rising Rookie
    No if stunned they are stunned it is at current TM and when the bar fills stun wears off if it is a 1 turn stun then TM then goes to 0 TM fills as normal.
    So as stated if you stun a character with 99% TM it will essentially drop off right away after they gain that last 1% TM.

    Biggs has some additional in this. If you stun Biggs with Empire, RG or EP or the hit that stuns crits he will gain 100% TM and the stun will drop of and then TM resets to 0 and TM gain is normal

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