@CG_SBCrumb @CG_Carrie I seemed to notice that raid bosses are now somehow immune to 'massive damage effects? (as seen in this image below, might be a bit blurry)why is that? the ones I can think of are IPD's self destruct and darth Nihilus's Annihilate, which both do 99,999 damage, and now they deal 0 damage. however I've seen darth Vader and Ora Sing deal well over 200,000 damage on a critical hit, and yet raid bosses are were not immune to that were they? so in my opinion raid bosses shouldn't be immune to 99,999 damage effects because they're not lethal, especially in the sith or tank raid, so id rather have it removed because there was no issue with it in the first place. I'm ok with people disagreeing with me, but from what I've seen there was no issue with them in the first place.

You're right, it makes no sense to remove the option to do 99,999 with Nihilus. It hasn't been a great option in a long time, with many characters deal that much on every hit (in addition to Vader/Aurra, it's typical for GMY, Wampa, Asajj, Mission, Ezra, and probably more).

It's always been that way. I assume it's just a holdover from when Rancor was first introduced, since 99k is actually a significant chunk of health against him. They just copy-pasted the Fearsome Foe ability over without thinking about whether it still made sense to be immune to a 99k hit when the raid has 50+ million HP. Honestly, even against AAT that wouldn't be a dealbreaker.

IPD and Savage Oppress are the only two characters I can think of who deal "massive damage", and their skills do 0 damage to the raid bosses. It would be nice if "massive damage" translated to a meaningful number in raids - even 100k. However...nothing.

They just listed the DN one in their "known issues" implying it's not necessarily intended behavior

"StarbirdInferno2;c-1816739" wrote:@jkray622 I was talking about in raids, yes it's a one hit KO in arena (accept zombie) but in raids it's classed as massive damage.I can't find anywhere that it is listed as "massive damage." I also cannot locate the official source that says it deals 99,999 damage to raid bosses, but I believe it was specifically spelled out, instead of referred to as Massive Damage. And for clarity sake - it's still a "1-hit KO" for Zombie, however Zombie will immediately revive afterwards.

raid bosses 'massave damage effects' immunity

14 Replies

GifafiTho
7 years ago
it's always been like this iirc. not new

also, they aren't immune to DN's annhilate, it does 99k. ipd is a mass-damage effect
Keydash1
New Ace
7 years ago
You're right, it makes no sense to remove the option to do 99,999 with Nihilus. It hasn't been a great option in a long time, with many characters deal that much on every hit (in addition to Vader/Aurra, it's typical for GMY, Wampa, Asajj, Mission, Ezra, and probably more).
StarbirdInferno2
New Adventurer
7 years ago
@Gifafi it hasn't always been like this. I did the sith raid the day before the darth revan update, and it mentions nothing about the damage effect immunity, but the day of the update I saw the annihilate deal no damage. I checked it twice myself this morning, so it's something new.
StarbirdInferno2
New Adventurer
7 years ago
@Keydash1 I know right. I can use annihilate 4 times max in Phase 1 sith raid, 4 times in phase 2, at least 2 in phase 3 and only once in phase 4 lol. Wow that many can deal 100k+ mind blown lol, thanks for that ill keep that in mind ;)
Vaderizer
Seasoned Ace
7 years ago
It's always been that way. I assume it's just a holdover from when Rancor was first introduced, since 99k is actually a significant chunk of health against him. They just copy-pasted the Fearsome Foe ability over without thinking about whether it still made sense to be immune to a 99k hit when the raid has 50+ million HP. Honestly, even against AAT that wouldn't be a dealbreaker.
StarbirdInferno2
New Adventurer
7 years ago
@Jarvind ahh right, so it was only used in the rancor. I never noticed that, but I did notice the change from when it was added into the tank and sith raids, which was annoying. true I guess, but it does remove a main ourpose of having Nihilus in a raid, or even IPD, so i'd rather have it changed back. but thanks for the info on Rancor though, I didn't know that personally.
GifafiTho
7 years ago
I still don't know what change you mean
GladOS-013
Hero (Retired)
7 years ago
IPD and Savage Oppress are the only two characters I can think of who deal "massive damage", and their skills do 0 damage to the raid bosses.

It would be nice if "massive damage" translated to a meaningful number in raids - even 100k. However...nothing.
TheDarthAndy
7 years ago
They just listed the DN one in their "known issues" implying it's not necessarily intended behavior
StarbirdInferno2
New Adventurer
7 years ago
@jkray622 Don't forget darth nihilus' annihilate. ;)