The last day i've had very different battles in GAC, TW and Raid most noticibly.at least 4 other ppl confirmed battles are being played very differently.some examples:my Bane got to 53 stack vs Leia (after killing all the others in the squads in 2 turns) and still barely did any dmg to her - this is a battle i take easily time and time again on both GAC and TW and win everytime, regardless, its not that i lost due to being targeted by entire opponent team and barely getting a turn, it was 1v1 vs Leia for 2 mins hitting her with all types of attacks building stacks and still barely made a dent.My Jabba lost to a Rey sqaud a very simple Resistance squad due to time - also a first lost of its kind.My old CLS team did barely any dmg on any attack - very different then before.i easily won BMK vs traya omicron 3v3 not even having BAM with - thats first time i try that tbh but it didnt feel like a traya omicron fight. Guild members are saying the same thing sharing screenshots from Kyber GAC where opponent won 1 battle and dropped battles vs nute+dooku+jango (with a lvl 4 cron), fifth brother+seventh+second, and qgj+anakin+mace. all of those had defensive wins and the opponent won 1 battle.it's obvious they already implemented it, maybe trying to soften the blow or trying to make us "get used to it" before going "we're realising it" and then we would barely feel any change - because its already in the game.so yes it's already in game - and it's sh*t.

Objection: speculation. Not once have you stated the relic levels of any of the characters on attack or defence. How can you complain so much yet provide so little detail?Also, there’d need to be a client update to change the way battles work, and there hasn’t been one for days.

You 100% are starting a conspiracy theory, though. You’re suggesting the devs have secretly updated the game (with no recent client update) without telling us. And your proof is not far short of “trust me guys, it happened”. The overwhelming majority of “the devs changed something” posts are incorrect and caused by something the poster overlooked or didn’t know about. I don’t think this post is any different. That’s why I’m asking about game modes, datacrons and opponents. I’ve never used Bane v Leia in TW, for instance as he is far less effective in that game mode.

I've heard a lot of conspiracy theories to explain bad RNG, bad mods, or just bad play but this one takes the cake.

None of the teams you listed have a 100% win rate vs those other teams. (Bane is about 70% vs Leia, Rey vs Jabba is about 80%)You also didn't list any datacrons and what they were. What about mods? There are a lot of other factors that come into play here.I've watched battles this week of Bane vs Leia that had no issue.

Clarification: This previous statment was made after deep considerationbane R8 vs Leia R9Jabba R8 with all R5 vs Rey R9 with a mix of R5s and R7smy CLS R7 with some R6s and R8s vs a mix of R7s and R8sBKM R7 with R7 vs Traya R3 with R5s my friends GAC squads were all R7s and R8s no idea which attacked back but its very suspicious kyber GAC who did attack at least 4 different times won 1 battle and lost vs those squads which are suppose to be the easier part.. i mean nute dooku and jango really....want more examples? i did Raid few hour ago, took my R5s-R7 tarkin and clones on Tier 3 battle (req:R3) something got messed up in proccess and i ended up going 4 of my guys vs LV. first turn i got a R7 clone - i hit, he hits back barely took 1/3 of the protection. what formerly would insta kill anything no matter of relic levelAdd to that our TW opponent had a wall of Ewoks mix of Gear 10-12 with R3 and Knessa at R7 thats most of the squads that were there. they won vs BH bossk squad with BOBSOJ omi fennec mando and grief. R5s with bossk at 7 and bobsoj at 6. knessa just took over that fight like nothing.this isnt about the correct science of which iteration of Relic Delta was in game. it's about the very real change in the battles, its not RNG, it's not a mix of better mods, its battle that were playing for months all the same ways with very slight changes due to the occasional RNG, are not being played completely different confirmed by multiple ppl, across multiple game mode.are you going now to ask for screenshots? i can provide some of those no problems even have a short clip of my bane hitting Leia doing nothing.

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25 Replies

harvestmouse1
Seasoned Ace
6 days ago
LeFrew1 wrote:
I would say this makes sense,
It may do, if the OP came with exact examples of before and after (the supposed change) battles with exact relic level differences, results and damage before and after damage results.
Instead of 'I won this battle before, but lost this time with a datacron'. I'd also wonder from the legality point on whether they could/should do that. Certainly, from a trust and 'should' it would be a bad idea.
Personally, (from a person that uses a lot of off-meta and tends to be the underdog) I haven't noticed anything to make me suspicious.
LeFrew1
Rising Rookie
6 days ago
For the sake of conversation, I would say this makes sense, I can totally see based on the extreme backlash and controversy this has caused, between players on the forums and the "trusted" YouTube content creators that were deemed worthy to test play this beta, they sneak some level of RD into the game to "soften the blow" then it's "see, now that wasn't to bad, was it?".
mgkkain
Rising Veteran
7 days ago
part of the issue is the percent reductions may seem bigger on paper then they do in practice.
OutrunWhistle
7 days ago
It's almost certainly just people jumping at shadows
zi2gx2uwva24
Seasoned Rookie
7 days ago
It’s not the wildest idea to suggest they vould release a watered down version of Relic Delta so the impact of the full release doesn’t feel as big. Pretty smart actually, if deceptive.
I’ve had a couple of battles where higher relic seem to be a bit stronger but it’s a new season, new DCs so hard to say
J1mmy_Duk
New Scout
7 days ago
This is probably one of those speculation posts that could do with a formal CG dev response to confirm state or not. I assume not since I don't believe the beta testing has formally closed and CG has stated that nothing will deploy until the Stranger event.
DarjeloSalas
Seasoned Ace
8 days ago
It would be nice to check this out on swgoh.gg to see if there’s anything else that would explain it. What’s your ally code?
c508ddb4619dc522
Rising Novice
8 days ago
Non preloaded, GAC, no DCs on the Tarkin team, they had decent mods, same with me.
I am a 12 million Kyber 2 account, I still won that round too, just could not even scratch this team.
I have the same team on defence but only R5 clone boys.
Just being salty really, they seemed to be massively out performing for what it was and all I could think is that they were all R9.
c508ddb4619dc522
Rising Novice
8 days ago
I didn't pre load them, I think I went first almost every attempt. I would have like 2 turns then I got nuked out, I know Tarkin's rework made him powerful but not like insta kill GL powerful, no DC was even equipped.
DarjeloSalas
Seasoned Ace
9 days ago
Unlikely to have been TW if they “just” had this happen, but I think you’re being kind suggesting that any of that information would make the claim more compelling.