Why such a focus on PVP?

"Zippy_3000;d-209055" wrote:
Also: please enlighten me- was the majority of the community really asking for all this grand arena crap? Look at what a sh!tstorm it’s been causing..

Yes. Pretty much since the games inception the community has been asking for two things: more and better PvP (with the ultimate desire being live PvP), and access to beta testing (with the ultimate desire being access to separate beta servers).

GAC and the exhibition seasons seems to be CGs response to these requests.

Currently I would say approx. half of the game's content relies on pve, though many like me consider that a necessary evil to reach pvp ends. And yeah there's major interest for pvp. No, pvp doesn't always rely on who goes first, who is fastest on most cases more like, but not the first toon to go if there are balancing factors on the other end.

The shiz GAC causes is hardly because there's a GAC, I've yet to see topics that people ask for cancellation of GAC as a mode all together. Yours may be one, dunno.

"VaexquaGer;c-1913273" wrote:

"jhbuchholz;c-1913268" wrote:

"Zippy_3000;d-209055" wrote:
Also: please enlighten me- was the majority of the community really asking for all this grand arena crap? Look at what a sh!tstorm it’s been causing..

Yes. Pretty much since the games inception the community has been asking for two things: more and better PvP (with the ultimate desire being live PvP), and access to beta testing (with the ultimate desire being access to separate beta servers).

GAC and the exhibition seasons seems to be CGs response to these requests.

Is that really so?
You must be very wise, if you know so much about the 'ultimative desire of the community'.

Nice try, but cheap framing...

Feel free to search the forums. I'm not trying to say everyone wants live PvP (I don't), and so maybe the use of the phrase "the community" is a bit clumsy, but there is a pretty consistent flow of requests for live PvP with minimal opposition.

speed is king even in non-turnbased games. Ever played FIFA? haha

"Zippy_3000;d-209055" wrote:
This is an honest question. PvP in “turned based” games seems inherently flawed to me.. as it heavily depends on who goes first.
And yes, I know there is pve in this game.. but it’s pretty weak. It seems like there’s a lot of room for expansion/improvement here. Where’s the creativity? Also: please enlighten me- was the majority of the community really asking for all this grand arena crap? Look at what a sh!tstorm it’s been causing..

There's a lot of PvE in this game, though. Five full boards--eight if you count hard separate from normal--events every day, three different territory battle maps, every raid. PvP is just arena, fleet arena, territory wars (of which there's one, it's now always the same, and is boring af), and grand arena.

Who cares if the majority of the community was asking for something? This community is bad. The majority of requests by the majority of the community can be summed up as "I want free stuff and I want to win every time I do something." Grand Arena could be absolutely perfect, and you would still get a thousand complaints from entitled sore losers who are convinced they should have gone 3-0 every time, but "the game" cost them the championship.

"leef;c-1913287" wrote:
speed is king even in non-turnbased games. Ever played FIFA? haha

Is that the bribing game?

"Zippy_3000;c-1914760" wrote:

It’s undeniable that if you want to REALLY COMPETE in this game, IT REQUIRES YOUR FULL CARD NUMBER, AND EXPIRATION DATE. That is the key to winning .. once you have done that, skill will become a deciding factor.

I deny this statement. First because there are plenty of people that compete without spending. And second because skill is not a deciding factor in any current PvP. Lack of skill can be, but when every interaction is against an AI there isn't a great deal of skill needed.

What are you talking about? Geo TB literally just came out

I would argue the opposite. PvE content is difficult to introduce and manage in this game because it very quickly becomes out dated and if they scale the difficulty up then it becomes a problem of the carrot constantly moving forward and is unfair. PvE content is intended to be challenging and eventually conquered.

Marvel strike force has a problem in this regards for example it scales it's raids more difficult as players grow and you never truly move forward

"Zippy_3000;c-1914795" wrote:

"jhbuchholz;c-1914766" wrote:

I deny this statement. First because there are plenty of people that compete without spending. And second because skill is not a deciding factor in any current PvP. Lack of skill can be, but when every interaction is against an AI there isn't a great deal of skill needed.

I’ve heard this a million times.. but the top players in the game spend lots of money to get all the latest toons (usually toons that are ‘broken op’) while CG slowly releases them later on for f2p players.. nerfing them along the way...

If you've heard it a million times then maybe you should be asking, "what can I do to be competitive as a F2P player" instead of declaring it undeniable that F2P cannot be competitive. Believe it or not, there are helpful folks on the forums and if you post your swgoh.gg account or ally code you'll get some good suggestions.

"Zippy_3000;c-1914795" wrote:

"jhbuchholz;c-1914766" wrote:

I deny this statement. First because there are plenty of people that compete without spending. And second because skill is not a deciding factor in any current PvP. Lack of skill can be, but when every interaction is against an AI there isn't a great deal of skill needed.

I’m f2p.. been playing for 3+ years.. I’m basically stuck in between rank 100 - 200 in squad arena. I win about the same amount as I lose. It’s become very boring, and stagnant.

Then you are doing something wrong, and that has nothing to do with $$.