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LeissaMyst
Rising Veteran
3 years ago

Greener Gardening NAP Applies to Apartments

Product: The Sims 4
Platform:PC
Which language are you playing the game in? English
How often does the bug occur? Every time (100%)
What is your current game version number? 1.93.129.1030
What expansions, game packs, and stuff packs do you have installed? All Expansions, All Game Packs, Too Many Stuff Packs to list (seriously why do I have to type all this every time I report a bug, can't you just automate it from reporting in game or something?)
Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? Enable Green Gardening on a Appartment Neighborehood NAP and Wait till bill day.
What happens when the bug occurs? I get charged $13 for "extra fees" on penalities that I cannot rightly do anything about due to the lack of an outdoor space.
What do you expect to see? NAP shouldn't apply in appartment living, especially when they can't be fulfilled.
Have you installed any customization with the game, e.g. Custom Content or Mods? Never used.
Did this issue appear after a specific patch or change you made to your system? Neutral/Not Sure 

This happened because of random NAPs being assigned (a different bug with the settings - I'll search and potentially report that next), but I'm assuming just voting on it will be enough to get the popup on bill day. For reference this occured in San Manshino - so there should've been no reason for a Gardening NAP to take effect in the first place (there's virtually no outdoor space in that world)

6 Replies

  • I don't think this is a bug.

    It is possible to garden in San Myshuno by using a garden pot, planter box, or vertical planter. You'll also need a bee box or insect farm to meet the Green Gardening requirements. Most apartments have more than enough room for a bee box or insect farm and several planters. I've done this myself so I'm certain it works.

  • siirysiir's avatar
    siirysiir
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @Sketch793 Why would anyone keep insects indoors in an apartment? That's just cruel. (Yeah a few of them have balconies but most of them don't) This shouldn't be an option for city worlds imo.
  • siirysiir's avatar
    siirysiir
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago

    We could use the same argument to justify basically everything. Like who cares if parents are gaining romance with their children, right? It's just a game. Obviously this makes people uncomfortable and the same goes to animal cruelty. Yes, they are just pixels but I don't want to deal with animal cruelty or especially child abuse even if it's just a game.

  • PugLove888's avatar
    PugLove888
    Hero (Retired)
    3 years ago

    @Sketch793 , yes it is just a game, but I do also agree with @siirysiir that this shouldn't be a NAP that is forced on apartment dwellers, for the simple fact that most apartments in San Myshuno are very small, and while it is possible to fit all that that particular NAP requires, it isn't practical,  especially if you have more than one Sim in the apartment, or want to have other activities for your Sim etc. 😞  With some of the cheaper apartments, I have difficulty with space as it is! 😅 While this isn't as much of a problem in the more expensive, apartments in San Myshuno, or the one house that is in San MyShuno, or the apartments in Evergreen Harbor, it can be a problem for Apartments in San Myshuno, especially those in the Spice District or the Arts Quartar! 😢

  • Sketch793's avatar
    Sketch793
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago

    I don't want any NAP forced on me, so I turn off NPC voting. It's a very easy solution but I understand that other people might want to leave voting on. I just think you should expect to get some unwanted NAPs if you do make that choice.

    I don't think Greener Gardening is impractical for small apartments. You only need 2 tiles of floor space for Greener Gardening if you use a bee box and a garden pot. I don't think there any apartments too small for that. Even the insect farms only need 4 tiles of floor space and some of that space can be shared with other objects, including the single garden pot you would need. I'm not suggesting large scale gardening.

    This thread started as a bug report by @LeissaMyst based on the idea that it's impossible to meet the requirements for Greener Gardening in an apartment. My original response was to show that those requirements can easily be met. My solution works and it's well within the intended design of the game. If you don't like my solution, find another one, such as repealing the NAP, moving, or simply paying the fine. I don't think there's any need to add special limitations to Greener Gardening, or any other NAP, based on the presence of apartments.