Kids need to stop cleaning autonomously

I ask my rl 'kids' (they're YA's) to do housework, it takes them at least a week to get around to it :D

But it is a pet peeve of mine in the game that kids do these things on their own, and also the washing hands thing. I feel like I have to poise my mouse above their interaction every time they pee so that I can cancel it a second before they finish and therefore knock out the impending washing of hands. Probably not good for their bladders to do that to them lol.

Also, my lazy slob-hates-children sim who runs an orphanage keeps cleaning by herself. She's meant to be a slob! I also get her to do mean interactions with the children and the next thing she's chatting nicely with them. Grrrrrr.....

I think even children with the right traits should clean autonomously -- traits like Good or Neat. But the rest probably should have to be told to do them.

"bixters;d-944893" wrote:
Why do they do this? Sorry, but I've never met a child who just decided to start mopping the floor on their own. It's not realistic at all. I'm trying to make my kid get the Irresponsible trait, but he keeps trying to mop the floor. If I want the kid to mop the floor, the parents can influence and encourage the sim to do it using the system laid out in Parenthood, but they shouldn't be doing it autonomously.

never once had a child cleaning or doing laundry.

"elanorbreton;c-16623884" wrote:


Also, my lazy slob-hates-children sim who runs an orphanage keeps cleaning by herself. She's meant to be a slob! I also get her to do mean interactions with the children and the next thing she's chatting nicely with them. Grrrrrr.....

Haha the bold part made me laugh! I wish sims weren't all programmed to be so clean and happy all the time, the most fun times I have playing the Sims is when there are random fights or when kids are making a mess or there's some type of challenge. I'd also recommend cheating and adding the "No Manners" and "Insensitive" traits from Parenthood to your orphanage owner, because they really are good traits and add some depth to them.

"Evie0602;c-16622852" wrote:

"Huiiie_07;c-16621916" wrote:
To add to this, I also think sims shouldn't wash their hands autonomously after going to the toilet. I remember in TS3, only sims with the traits perfectionist and neat would do it. The same for making the bed autonomously. Just a thought.

I love that sims automously wash their hands. I tried the sims 3 and one of the things I hated was that my sims never washed their hands after using the bathroom.

Sims with certain traits do. Which means traits matter and form personalities. I love that, being able to choose whether my sims do that or not. And if it really bothers you, you can simply direct them to the sink and they will wash their hands. It’s just really lame for me when the game dictates things. If there’s something I hate: that.

"JoAnne65;c-16626292" wrote:

"Evie0602;c-16622852" wrote:

"Huiiie_07;c-16621916" wrote:
To add to this, I also think sims shouldn't wash their hands autonomously after going to the toilet. I remember in TS3, only sims with the traits perfectionist and neat would do it. The same for making the bed autonomously. Just a thought.

I love that sims automously wash their hands. I tried the sims 3 and one of the things I hated was that my sims never washed their hands after using the bathroom.

Sims with certain traits do. Which means traits matter and form personalities. I love that, being able to choose whether my sims do that or not. And if it really bothers you, you can simply direct them to the sink and they will wash their hands. It’s just really lame for me when the game dictates things. If there’s something I hate: that.

The first time I saw Tank Grunt jump up and clean the kitchen in TS2, it freaked me out. Then I realized it was related to his personality points. I think you're on to something about the Traits.

"JoAnne65;c-16626292" wrote:
Sims with certain traits do. Which means traits matter and form personalities. I love that, being able to choose whether my sims do that or not. And if it really bothers you, you can simply direct them to the sink and they will wash their hands. It’s just really lame for me when the game dictates things. If there’s something I hate: that.

I think the problem with Sims 4 is that too many autonomous behaviors are not tied to traits. Instead of making "do nothing regarding this interaction" the default and then making them automatic with certain traits, the default is "do this task" and then don't do it with specific traits. This has the effect that in Sims 3, unless you had a "neat" Sim, you didn't see her automatically making her bed or washing her hands, but in Sims 4, unless you have a sloppy sim, you will see her do that. Because there are so many traits, odds are small that you will see the auto behavior except very occasionally, which makes the Sims in Sims 4 seem more "the same" and less individual.

It should be trait related but no, all the sims are basically programmed to do the same things. What irritates me is that they provided a pack (Parenthood) that gives us a choice to make a kid responsible or irresponsible but it is nearly impossible to actually get irresponsible because of all the autonomous actions. I tried to make Max Villareal irresponsible (the kid is supposed too be evil!) but you had to constantly be on him to try to undo all the responsible actions he would do autonomously - I finally gave up. I have yet to be able to get an irresponsible child so I have never even been able to experience how that plays out when they are older. Our sims stories are supposed to be our choice but they rarely are.

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"AprilDawn;c-16626546" wrote:
It should be trait related but no, all the sims are basically programmed to do the same things. What irritates me is that they provided a pack (Parenthood) that gives us a choice to make a kid responsible or irresponsible but it is nearly impossible to actually get irresponsible because of all the autonomous actions. I tried to make Max Villareal irresponsible (the kid is supposed too be evil!) but you had to constantly be on him to try to undo all the responsible actions he would do autonomously - I finally gave up. I have yet to be able to get an irresponsible child so I have never even been able to experience how that plays out when they are older. Our sims stories are supposed to be our choice but they rarely are.

I agree there,I have to fight really hard to get my children and teens to be irresponsible. The only sure proof way I’ve come up with is to have them skip school as a teen.

In sims 2 and 3 sims would only wash their hands and clean automatically if they had the best trait or had high level neatness in the sims 2. It was drawn to the sims personality. In 4 I do find all my sims have the same basic programs.