Rampaging werewolves have nothing to do!

I was going to come in here with some solutions to "Werewolves have nothing to do when Rampaging" but they're probably not the sort of solutions you're looking for.

I will say that depending on what Werewolf perks you've bought, there are more options available than what you have listed. Don't know how much of it is actually the sort of stuff you want, though.

"DaWaterRat;c-18141997" wrote:
I was going to come in here with some solutions to "Werewolves have nothing to do when Rampaging" but they're probably not the sort of solutions you're looking for.

I will say that depending on what Werewolf perks you've bought, there are more options available than what you have listed. Don't know how much of it is actually the sort of stuff you want, though.

Such as?
I can.........eat...........furniture............ or dig holes, I sure

But what objects can I interact with? What socials do I unlock with pets or livestock? How many times can I do a vicious howl before I say "to hell with it, I'll just unlock transformation mastery"

I can't hunt while rampaging, or even lead hunting parties. All the interactions that would actually make sense for a werewolf are locked

I can tell you disagree, but that is kind of part of the point. Bestial doesn't mean evil for socials, and they've based the rampage more around anger than hunger for wanton hunting (though hunger can be a trigger). Put a rampaging wolf in a full house of people and there will still be plenty of chaos without it.

I do, and would, expect going full wolf to make communication a fair bit harder. If you cannot really communicate with your fellow wolves in that state, why would a Chihuahua stand a chance? It is a state to be managed like anger generally in the game. You aren't in the same level of control, which is why you cannot do the things you normally would.

Could there be more to do? Sure. Is it necessary? I don't think so. It is the one major weakness of wolves, one that can be mitigated through managing fury. I certainly think it makes more sense than vampires releasing their victims without a full thirst bar.

"kwanzaabot;c-18142006" wrote:

"DaWaterRat;c-18141997" wrote:
I was going to come in here with some solutions to "Werewolves have nothing to do when Rampaging" but they're probably not the sort of solutions you're looking for.

I will say that depending on what Werewolf perks you've bought, there are more options available than what you have listed. Don't know how much of it is actually the sort of stuff you want, though.

Such as?
I can.........eat...........furniture............ or dig holes, I sure

But what objects can I interact with? What socials do I unlock with pets or livestock? How many times can I do a vicious howl before I say "to hell with it, I'll just unlock transformation mastery"

I can't hunt while rampaging, or even lead hunting parties. All the interactions that would actually make sense for a werewolf are locked

I disagree that doing something as rational and planned as hunting or leading hunting parties is something that makes sense when a werewolf is full of rage. A raging, rampaging werewolf shouldn't do anything that requires rational thought. And that includes hunting. Or being Mean. Or Evil.

I don't know if you're familiar with Werewolf: the Apocalypse (or Werewolf: the Forsaken), but managing Rage is a factor in that game too. And when werewolves in that game break, they aren't supposed to do anything as rational as hunt. (It's a TTRPG, so how uncontrolled they actually are varies depending on the player and the table.) Kill people indiscriminately? Sure. But that's not happening in the Sims, so Snarling at people and Fearsome Growls and the like - and making sims pass out from fear - is as close as we're going to get.

Now, as for the eating furniture and digging holes... It's not furniture, it's objects. Chickens are objects. And digging holes you can find stuff in those holes. Things you can sell if not you're not trying to follow up on the Werewolf lore (or if you get duplicates.)

I use the rampaging wolves to madly scavenge and find things to sell or donate to the pack.

"DaWaterRat;c-18142026" wrote:

"kwanzaabot;c-18142006" wrote:

"DaWaterRat;c-18141997" wrote:
I was going to come in here with some solutions to "Werewolves have nothing to do when Rampaging" but they're probably not the sort of solutions you're looking for.

I will say that depending on what Werewolf perks you've bought, there are more options available than what you have listed. Don't know how much of it is actually the sort of stuff you want, though.

Such as?
I can.........eat...........furniture............ or dig holes, I sure

But what objects can I interact with? What socials do I unlock with pets or livestock? How many times can I do a vicious howl before I say "to hell with it, I'll just unlock transformation mastery"

I can't hunt while rampaging, or even lead hunting parties. All the interactions that would actually make sense for a werewolf are locked

I disagree that doing something as rational and planned as hunting or leading hunting parties is something that makes sense when a werewolf is full of rage. A raging, rampaging werewolf shouldn't do anything that requires rational thought. And that includes hunting. Or being Mean. Or Evil.

I don't know if you're familiar with Werewolf: the Apocalypse (or Werewolf: the Forsaken), but managing Rage is a factor in that game too. And when werewolves in that game break, they aren't supposed to do anything as rational as hunt. (It's a TTRPG, so how uncontrolled they actually are varies depending on the player and the table.) Kill people indiscriminately? Sure. But that's not happening in the Sims, so Snarling at people and Fearsome Growls and the like - and making sims pass out from fear - is as close as we're going to get.

Now, as for the eating furniture and digging holes... It's not furniture, it's objects. Chickens are objects. And digging holes you can find stuff in those holes. Things you can sell if not you're not trying to follow up on the Werewolf lore (or if you get duplicates.)

Yeah, because it's not like real wolves can hunt
Those animalistic... animals... sure can't do something as rational as think "me hungry, me find meat"

You and I clearly have different ideas of what it means to be a werewolf.
And that's one of the weaknesses of this pack--in the Vampires GP, we could design our vampires to behave the way vampires look and act in our preferred vampire fiction. The Werewolves GP does not have this functionality. Werewolves has werewolves think "ME ANGERY, ME SMASH", and that's it. When *I* think of werewolves, I think "IT FULL MOON, ME BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MYSTERIOUS DEATHS IN VILLAGE"

Look at any werewolf fiction. Does it have irrational werewolves? Unless it's Twilight, the answer is probably yes. And do these irrational werewolves.... hunt? I'm gonna say a resounding "yes they do".

"kwanzaabot;c-18142041" wrote:

"DaWaterRat;c-18142026" wrote:

"kwanzaabot;c-18142006" wrote:

"DaWaterRat;c-18141997" wrote:
I was going to come in here with some solutions to "Werewolves have nothing to do when Rampaging" but they're probably not the sort of solutions you're looking for.

I will say that depending on what Werewolf perks you've bought, there are more options available than what you have listed. Don't know how much of it is actually the sort of stuff you want, though.

Such as?
I can.........eat...........furniture............ or dig holes, I sure

But what objects can I interact with? What socials do I unlock with pets or livestock? How many times can I do a vicious howl before I say "to hell with it, I'll just unlock transformation mastery"

I can't hunt while rampaging, or even lead hunting parties. All the interactions that would actually make sense for a werewolf are locked

I disagree that doing something as rational and planned as hunting or leading hunting parties is something that makes sense when a werewolf is full of rage. A raging, rampaging werewolf shouldn't do anything that requires rational thought. And that includes hunting. Or being Mean. Or Evil.

I don't know if you're familiar with Werewolf: the Apocalypse (or Werewolf: the Forsaken), but managing Rage is a factor in that game too. And when werewolves in that game break, they aren't supposed to do anything as rational as hunt. (It's a TTRPG, so how uncontrolled they actually are varies depending on the player and the table.) Kill people indiscriminately? Sure. But that's not happening in the Sims, so Snarling at people and Fearsome Growls and the like - and making sims pass out from fear - is as close as we're going to get.

Now, as for the eating furniture and digging holes... It's not furniture, it's objects. Chickens are objects. And digging holes you can find stuff in those holes. Things you can sell if not you're not trying to follow up on the Werewolf lore (or if you get duplicates.)

Yeah, because it's not like real wolves can hunt
Those animalistic... animals... sure can't do something as rational as think "me hungry, me find meat"

You and I clearly have different ideas of what it means to be a werewolf.
And that's one of the weaknesses of this pack--in the Vampires GP, we could design our vampires to behave the way vampires look and act in our preferred vampire fiction. The Werewolves GP does not have this functionality. Werewolves has werewolves think "ME ANGERY, ME SMASH", and that's it. When *I* think of werewolves, I think "IT FULL MOON, ME BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MYSTERIOUS DEATHS IN VILLAGE"

Look at any werewolf fiction. Does it have irrational werewolves? Unless it's Twilight, the answer is probably yes. And do these irrational werewolves.... hunt? I'm gonna say a resounding "yes they do".

For better or worse, you're never going to get actually murderous werewolves in the Sims - at least Vanilla.

Yes, normal werewolf fiction has them slaughtering innocents and sometimes feasting on their bodies. But most of it just stops with the mad slaughter part when the werewolves are on a tear. And that's where the difference is. They don't hunt, they slaughter indiscriminately. They may stalk our hapless humans, but when they're doing that, they're not on a blind rampage. Sure, the animal mind may be more in control, but it's not Blinding Rage.

Real wolves, on the other hand, do not slaughter indiscriminately unless they are hurt or cornered. And when they hunt, they are not filled with blinding supernatural rage that prevents them from behaving in ways that are, for wolves, rational.

Sims Werewolves have Blinding Rage that blocks out anything that could be rational thought, even on an animal level. It really is very like the W:tA werewolves I mentioned above, and since SimGuruBat plays Vampire, I'm pretty sure she's familiar with Werewolf too, since they were originally by the same game company.

"kwanzaabot;c-18142041" wrote:

"DaWaterRat;c-18142026" wrote:

"kwanzaabot;c-18142006" wrote:

"DaWaterRat;c-18141997" wrote:
I was going to come in here with some solutions to "Werewolves have nothing to do when Rampaging" but they're probably not the sort of solutions you're looking for.

I will say that depending on what Werewolf perks you've bought, there are more options available than what you have listed. Don't know how much of it is actually the sort of stuff you want, though.

Such as?
I can.........eat...........furniture............ or dig holes, I sure

But what objects can I interact with? What socials do I unlock with pets or livestock? How many times can I do a vicious howl before I say "to hell with it, I'll just unlock transformation mastery"

I can't hunt while rampaging, or even lead hunting parties. All the interactions that would actually make sense for a werewolf are locked

I disagree that doing something as rational and planned as hunting or leading hunting parties is something that makes sense when a werewolf is full of rage. A raging, rampaging werewolf shouldn't do anything that requires rational thought. And that includes hunting. Or being Mean. Or Evil.

I don't know if you're familiar with Werewolf: the Apocalypse (or Werewolf: the Forsaken), but managing Rage is a factor in that game too. And when werewolves in that game break, they aren't supposed to do anything as rational as hunt. (It's a TTRPG, so how uncontrolled they actually are varies depending on the player and the table.) Kill people indiscriminately? Sure. But that's not happening in the Sims, so Snarling at people and Fearsome Growls and the like - and making sims pass out from fear - is as close as we're going to get.

Now, as for the eating furniture and digging holes... It's not furniture, it's objects. Chickens are objects. And digging holes you can find stuff in those holes. Things you can sell if not you're not trying to follow up on the Werewolf lore (or if you get duplicates.)

Yeah, because it's not like real wolves can hunt
Those animalistic... animals... sure can't do something as rational as think "me hungry, me find meat"

You and I clearly have different ideas of what it means to be a werewolf.
And that's one of the weaknesses of this pack--in the Vampires GP, we could design our vampires to behave the way vampires look and act in our preferred vampire fiction. The Werewolves GP does not have this functionality. Werewolves has werewolves think "ME ANGERY, ME SMASH", and that's it. When *I* think of werewolves, I think "IT FULL MOON, ME BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MYSTERIOUS DEATHS IN VILLAGE"

Look at any werewolf fiction. Does it have irrational werewolves? Unless it's Twilight, the answer is probably yes. And do these irrational werewolves.... hunt? I'm gonna say a resounding "yes they do".

I too disagree with you. The Werewolf GP has the functionality of making Fury very easy to manage, so if you dislike rampaging, you can opt out and still be a Werewolf, though you will have to level up to get to that point. And then as the above mentioned, there's a difference between being in it for the food and in it for the kill. You sound like you want the kill, which means you have a problem with the game's rating, not just Werewolves themselves. There is no Werewolf fiction that creates the standard of how a rampaging Werewolf should act. Because they don't exist, it's all interpretation, so the fact that they "hunt" whilst rampaging in other fiction isn't really relevant here because this is still a T game, the devs were never going to let Werewolves indiscriminately kill Sims. The rating was always going to come first.

In a game where its difficulty is much much less than that of previous titles where Sims also have much less depth and frankly, less issues than Sims in said titles, I prefer and encourage the mechanic of having to maintain a Werewolf's Fury lest they succumb to their inner beast and can do nothing but fight, eat, snarl, and tear. It opens up a lot of story-telling ideas. A Werewolf who embraces their inner beast can go on a wild rampage and be the scourge of the public until another Sim (or group of Sims) come together to take them down. Or perhaps said Werewolf meets another non-Werewolf and falls in love with them. A gentle Werewolf who prefers being in their Wolf form who feels an immense amount of guilt whenever they lose control. I could go on.

I also disagree that it "makes sense" for a rampaging Werewolf to lead hunting parties. I don't see my wild, frothing at the mouth, snarling beastie being able to coordinate with anyone in such a state.

It iffitates me that all my rampaging wrerewolf can do to things is smash them. Even if those actions were all negative actions. But you can't even do the other werewolf things when you're in a fury. You can't even go off and Hunt!

Well, murdering other sims have always been out of the question (unless it's The Sims Medieval). That's why in Realm of Magic, using Inferniate on a sim doesn't kill them, but using Inferniate on the ground can cause a deadly fire.

Plus there is also one important rule they need to keep in mind: the game's age rating mustn't raise. Should a DLC raise it, the whole game's age rating raises. It is limiting, but they try their best (well, sometimes not). That's how vampires can drink from unwilling sims, but that's why they drink plasma.

Mods can always solve things, but mods like this aren't allowed to be shared on this forums.