Whisked away due to negligence

"Sindocat;c-17956110" wrote:
If her father were doing his actual job, he'd not have had the stepmother in the same household as the daughter she was abusive toward.

A child in a routinely negative environment will be removed, yes. You cannot use The Sims as a child abuse simulator and I am fine with that.

If this was reality you would have a valid point! But this is a simulation of reality. Sims are not abusive towards each other if you dont force them to be so. In this case it is the daughter who forces a conflict and don't accept her stepmother as a caretaker, I could as a player have done it the other way around and let the stepmother be the one who started the argument. What hte father thinks is neither here or there. The question in this case if a child can have a bad relationship with a parent and remain in the household

In adition to what Sindocat said, is it possible there were other factors? How were the kid's needs? How were her grades? I believe if either of those are particularly low, the child may get taken away. Sims won't let you have a kid flunk out of school (before they go to University)

In James Turner's 3 Brother's let's play, one of the brothers had a terrible relationship with both his kids because he had the vampire trait that makes relationships difficult, but neither kid was taken away because despite all the chaos, the kids had food and baths, and even enough sleep - and kept their grades at a decent level. (James also aged them up early, I believe, but the bad relationship started when they were toddlers.)

Huh... I must agree with @DaWaterRat and wonder if the kid's needs were neglected or something. Because I have a household in which an adopted toddler daughter has a terrible relationship with both of the parents (other one despised, other disliked). That was because of me wanting to test out how two vampires with a tendency for hissing can operate with a human. Not that well it turns out :sweat_smile:. They dutifully take care of her needs and don't deliberately do mean interactions but the relationship is still awful.

I also had a Homeless challenge run with a mother-daughter duo and they had a terrible relationship as well. In this case the mother was actually deliberately picking on the kid because she just constantly got whims to "be mean to a child". I got several warnings but those clearly stated it was because of her needs being low and they were taken care of before repercussions. Once she entered school she had abysmal grades as well but, despite everything, she never got taken away.

In my estimation, low needs with bad grades is the impetus. If you can roll back a game save prior to the kid being whisked away, check to see what's going on. If the needs are low and the grades failing, then perhaps you can do a quick cheat needs and fix things in order to carry on with your scenario. Have the kid do the make-up work, too, in order to raise the grade. I appreciate that you're likely trying to tell a particular story, and you should be able to do so. Just keep the grades up and the needs, too. See if that helps.

Honestly, I think its more likely something else like low needs or bad grades or a glitch. Like, Maxis doesn't condone child abuse but this is a video game and a child sim having an argument with a stepparent they don't like should not be enough merits to be taken away.

"GalacticGal;c-17956725" wrote:
In my estimation, low needs with bad grades is the impetus. If you can roll back a game save prior to the kid being whisked away, check to see what's going on. If the needs are low and the grades failing, then perhaps you can do a quick cheat needs and fix things in order to carry on with your scenario. Have the kid do the make-up work, too, in order to raise the grade. I appreciate that you're likely trying to tell a particular story, and you should be able to do so. Just keep the grades up and the needs, too. See if that helps.

Well since I had to abort the game without saving I could start from the point where the warnings forst appeared
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qx8KwOtAEpo

She's an F student, which means she's failing school. And her needs at the time of the argument are making her plumbob orange/red. Odds are there were two things that triggered a check from the game (the grades and the needs) about intervention from the social worker and as one had not been cleared up before the second check, that's what triggered it, not the argument.

"DaWaterRat;c-17957975" wrote:
She's an F student, which means she's failing school. And her needs at the time of the argument are making her plumbob orange/red. Odds are there were two things that triggered a check from the game (the grades and the needs) about intervention from the social worker and as one had not been cleared up before the second check, that's what triggered it, not the argument.

Since I suspected that it was her grades was the reason and this took a few days, I had her father help her with her homework so she was at the top of her grades when she was removed from her home

"Peral;c-17957980" wrote:

"DaWaterRat;c-17957975" wrote:
She's an F student, which means she's failing school. And her needs at the time of the argument are making her plumbob orange/red. Odds are there were two things that triggered a check from the game (the grades and the needs) about intervention from the social worker and as one had not been cleared up before the second check, that's what triggered it, not the argument.

Since I suspected that it was her grades was the reason and this took a few days, I had her father help her with her homework so she was at the top of her grades when she was removed from her home

When you say top of her grades, are you talking the performance meter or was she actually an A student? Even with a maxed out performance meter, she's still a failing student until she goes to school and levels up. And it would take at least 4 school days for her to go from F to A.

I mean, it could still be a glitch, because as I and others have said we've seen situations where the kid had a bad relationship with their parent(s) and still were just fine as long as their needs and grades were seen to. So the cause is almost certainly either the grades or the poor needs or both. Or it was a glitch and something hadn't been cleared from a previous check.

It would be strange if it is the grades, she autonomously do her homework. She is in a group with other children where doing their homework is on of the activities and her father always prtake in helping with the homework when she is at home. I think it is a combination of the "hate children" trait and the fact that she did not adopt her stepmother as a caregiver. So it may be a glitch as the bad relationship with a stepmother and stepfather is a pretty common theme