[CD] Captain Whitaker is no longer a ghost

Right with the test, mod fix by LunarBritney and help I got from family we still see Captain Whitaker as a normal Dog even though in manage worlds he looks like a ghost. We know why. His ghost type is Old age and that death type isn't allowed on adult pets. So when he appears in new savefiles with LunarBritney's mod fix. He turns to normal since the Old age ghost trait get's removed as it's not allow on Adults and younger. If you use my mod Young Ghosts Return then in new saves he's a ghost since the Old age Trait is allowed for those ages. Please try it but you need the mod by LunarBritney or you're not going to able to test it.

When I have time hopefully tomorrow I'm going to test this to see if it is fixed. LunarBritney just released a mod fix for the missing premade pets in new savefiles and found out why the premade pets are missing. So hopefully the pets that are missing including Captain Whitaker are there and I can see if he is a ghost.

I maybe fixed my Captain Whitaker a few days ago (after Feb 12 patch, before Feb 19 update).

At first I tried just adding him from the gallery to a household then evicting them, but that didn't work. I added both Captain and Mayor Whiskers to a single ghost household, evicted them. I did see Mayor roaming Deadgrass Isle as a stray as intended, but Captain wasn't there after 9pm like he should be. He wasn't in any households after some time, but found him by using "sims.get_sim_id_by_name Captain Whitaker" (to get the simid) and then "sims.summon_sim_to_zone 104451398714985767" but he was alive so it didn't work. Here's what I did that I think(??) worked:

From Manage Households, I created my own version of the Whitaker/Penrose household/fanon. Penny Penrose and her new husband are the main sims, and created Harley as a ghost. Then I merged this Captain from Gallery with them Jules_Angel 

Tested by visiting the lot from a different household and Captain spawned as living again, so out of sheer relentless desperation I tried these in order (no mods or cc, just testingcheats true):

sims.remove_all_buffs 104451398714985767
traits.equip_trait Ghost_OldAge 104451398714985767
traits.equip_trait trait_LighthouseDog 104451398714985767
traits.equip_trait trait_CaptainWhitaker 104451398714985767
traits.equip_trait trait_Hidden_CaptainWhitaker 104451398714985767
traits.equip_trait trait_Hidden_isCaptainWhitaker 104451398714985767
sims.add_buff CaptainWhitaker 104451398714985767
pets.add_buff CaptainWhitaker 104451398714985767

I dont remember which one worked, but he became a ghost again! :) no urn but I placed and used dedicate a memorial display to him (from L&D) on the lot. Not sure if that matters.
Also added "modifyrelationship Harley Whitaker Captain Whitaker 100 LTR_SimtoPet_Friendship_Main", etc... for each household member to Captain just in case that mattered.

I have them saved in My Households with Neighborhood Stories on for them but with only Friendship checked. Firstname Captain Lastname Whitaker. Name of household is Whitaker. Save created last Nov, no mods or cc (removed bbb in Dec but thats all I had). Tested again by visiting from a different household, he was still a ghost :)


He still doesn't spawn at the Lighthouse like he should, though. Is there a hidden trait or buff or something he needs? I tried searching everywhere...

Hopefully when the bug is fixed for missing premade pets in new saves. I can test that too. New saves he's missing and I know how much I love ghosts in the sims :D

For me he was normal dog also in manage household . Have many saves to show that :D

I've now deleted the save cause I was testing something else but I can check with the next new one I make.

Just curious what other experiences are.

I tried testing it myself for you without mods. But he doesn't exist in the new saves I create. I can't even find him in manage worlds. That stupid bug with all premade pets. Also manage worlds can be wrong since I've seen this in my old saves. He was a ghost in the thumbnail but in game he showed up as a normal dog. I would check in live mode just to be safe to confirm. I can't sadly since he doesn't exist in any new save I create.

Is anyone still having issues with this after the patch ?

You'll need to start a new save but for me, Whitaker is a ghost again on new saves

Not really.  They made Life & Death work with Paranormal (mostly) as I just commented, so don't see why they couldn't just flag the dead trait (which I am pretty sure is base game) to work with pets.  Outside of cheats or special cases like Guidry, Temperance (both from Paranormal) or  Captain Whitaker there is no way it would ever be assigned to any Sim, human or Pet through normal gameplay. 

So, Sims also have to have a Death Type assigned.  However, there are at least two exceptions.  Guidry and Temperance.  Now, lore wise Guidry was crushed by a Murphy Bed and Temperance died by Anger.  However, as they come in the Paranormal Pack and the Murphy Bed death type requires the Tiny Living expansion, Guidry at least is just dead.  He has a special trait that is "Dead" that makes him a ghost.  Pretty sure that Temperance does too, despite Death by Anger being base game.

Now, if you try to apply this basic "Dead" trait to Captain Whitaker, well it doesn't work.  Apparently it's only flagged as valid for human-based Sims.

So, why? Why can't they use this hidden "Dead" trait on pets like Captain Whitaker too? 

y'all i dont think ea is ever gonna fix it cuz that means they have to change how the dlc works and they refuse to edit any dlc after its release and actually make quality content 😭😭