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6 years ago

Judging a player

Okay so there are alot of ways to actually judge a player(‘s worth). What do you pay attention to?

at first I check which character they choose. Consensus (albeit not reliably) is pathfinder/octane/wraith are solo players/rushers/aggressive players, wattson & caustic are campers or cautious players and the rest are... a mix?

second thing I do is watch which badges they display. If I see a lvl badge, I’m already under the impression that this person either not uses that legend alot (unless I see that he has more than the 50 win badge or 50 5-kill game badge or see more than 1k kills) or that he’s not good enough to have better badges equipped because he doesn’t have them (totally prejudiced I know). If I see ‘low skill’ badges like ‘kill leader’, ‘drop 1 squad by yourself’ or one of the previous event badges I’m already thinking ‘either a player who sucks carrots or someone who just started playing again’ (especially if they have that top 5 streak badge and they’re at like 2 xD).

If I see ‘high skill badges’ but on the low count like the win badge or 5 kill badge but between 15-50 I’m like... hmmm how many kills does he have. If I see more than 800... I’m like this dude doesn’t have good track record getting kills or good win-per-kill ratio xD.

If I see good badges like 50+ wins/50+ 5 kill games and another badge, while having 800-1500 I’m already content with that player and know he can pull his own weight unless something unfortunate happens.

20 bomb/triple triple/3/4K badges mean that person is either good + lucky or a cheater and I judge by the way someone moves and how he engages in-game.

Next trackers. Trackers say alot about ppl. If he has no trackers and worthless badges it could be a very good person not wanting ppl to see the skillz beforehand but more than likely, that’s not the case.

Nowadays I hardly see ppl with the win with full team alive tracker unless they have 100+ of those. Most are just season trackers. In any given season if tracker is 50+ I consider you at least competent... this may not also be the case.

Lastly the most important gauger. In-game skillz. If I see you looting a small place like... contagion for like 5 minutes... I consider you low skilled and not aware of surroundings.

If you run up to a squad with less than desirable armor and weapons... same. Same for wanting to 3rd party while you dont seem to take in how many ppl there are (watching) and rush straight in.

If I see you shooting an AR over 100m away trying to hit a target who wasn’t even aware of you (doesnt matter if you miss or not) I dont consider you a good teammate cause you’re drawing attention. Same can be said when a teammate (usually thats me... as bloodhound or since this season Revenant) sneaks up to an enemy who hasn’t seen us and I indicate by voice or ping that I’m going somewhere to attack and I spot the enemies and you see me Rev-crouching and I’m less than 40m away and you decide to start shooting from a semi open space alerting them and making it more likely for them to spot me.. you suck and you belong on the Teletubbies show just like that cool vacuum. Same can be said if you run straight pass me, alerting them someone is there and start shooting at the first person you see.

I can go on but these are one of the main points...

so how bout you? Do you (dis)agree? Do you have some additions? Place them below

discussion

19 Replies

MandatoryIDtag
6 years ago
First of all how they loot, slow looters generally equate to being slow at well...everything, never a good sign.
How they communicate, now i'm not expecting every player to use mic chat, but there's a ping system for a reason. If they only use it when they're downed "usually because they didnt ping an enemy to start with" and proceed to hammer their ping button through the floor then they're trash. If they are on mic chat and getting mouthy they also get left to their own devices.
Positioning and movement, people who run in straight lines or stand still are no use to me. People pay no attention to their environment are no use to me.
Shooting ability, now if my team can't shoot to great i can cope with it...unless they don't pass any of my requirements above. In which case they're on their own....i ain't getting myself lit up to save you.
Koochi-Q
6 years ago
@MandatoryIDtag wrote:
First of all how they loot, slow looters generally equate to being slow at well...everything, never a good sign..
How they communicate, now i'm not expecting every player to use mic chat, but there's a ping system for a reason. If they only use it when they're downed "usually because they didnt ping an enemy to start with" and proceed to hammer their ping button through the floor then they're trash. If they are on mic chat and getting mouthy they also get left to their own devices.
Positioning and movement, people who run in straight lines or stand still are no use to me. People pay no attention to their environment are no use to me.
Shooting ability, now if my team can't shoot to great i can cope with it...unless they don't pass any of my requirements above. In which case they're on their own....i ain't getting myself lit up to save you.
Coming strong right out of the gate ID. You’re not leaving alot for others to add :P I agree wholeheartedly but the part I boldened & underlined just takes the cake. No ping whatsoever... Even if they suddenly find themselves near an enemy. It’s not that hard to ping but most times they just go somewhere while we are going somewhere else or looking somewhere else and suddenly hearing “ahhh getting shot” and “I’m down” followed by button mashing like they’re in a QTE.
The normal underlined part is me either just D/Cing or leaving them
MandatoryIDtag
6 years ago
@Koochi-Q It just bugs me, i expect this behaviour from rookies who are new to this game or the genre in general. However when i'm seeing 20 bomb badge players or players with self inflated worth doing these things simply because they're so egocentric they think they'll never get knocked it bugs me beyond belief.
Apex was designed as a team game, good teams communicate. Teams that communicate well win more games...or at least put up a damn good effort in the process.
I'm sure i speak for many people when i say i'd rather have a really enjoyable match than a rough win.
RevenanT-G7
6 years ago
The mindless wonderer- The person that pings "lets go here" continuously and is just basically running from point A - point B (etc) mindlessly in the open areas going in to other areas and is attracting players and not committing to that area and going to another area. while you and your other teammate are playing it safe trying not to alert anyone, then your mindless teammate that is midlessly wondering gets downed and leaves. Now it's a 2 v 3.
Not a team player - when you ping something you need and your teammate goes right past it and doesn't ping it for you. So you go and check out that location just in case something is there and you don't want to leave it for the enemy. You go to the location and it's right there on the ground. 90% of the time they are going to get your team in situations that are not going to favor you winning or make it very hard to win games.
DrenMadre
6 years ago
With so many Smurfs in game now.....tough to even look anymore......
Personally, the only thing I show is game level....tells evewryone at least I mostly know what im doing in game....
Only exception is Mirage....gonna show ya wins, kills, badges...everything. Gotta tell em I'm sadist enough to main him and decent enough to hold my own. Lol
#buffMirage
DarthValtrex
Hero (Retired)
6 years ago
@Koochi-QI am a wraith main and I'm not always extremely aggressive but I tend to be. I try and judge my squad mates skill. If I don't think they can handle frag and the choke points that follow going through frag, I try to get them to avoid it.

Duos is another story, I'm extremely aggressive in duos mostly because it's not terribly difficult to carry your squadmate. But it also depends on my load out, if I don't like the load out I'm not going to push fights until I have something I'm comfortable with.

I have a friend who's a Wattson main, he's extremely aggressive, more so than I am. I used to leave games anytime I'd get a caustic player but I had one who was actually really good and never gassed me. So I give them a chance.

As for the players skill, no way to tell based on their trackers/banners. I got paired with a predator in duos and I had to revive him 4 times and respawn him once. People just have bad rounds.. Then there are the dudes with boosted badges.I have been on the other end of that as well, in which I get knocked 3-4 times and don't really do much but act as a bullet sponge. My Kill stats are probably misleading, I only have about 1200 kills with wraith, but I have 1200 with bang and about as many with Wattson. I also get a ton of knocks, I have something like 5000 knocks.. Bloodhound is starting to get quite a few kills as well.

The people who grind my nerves are the ones who are looting when I'm being pushed and need help. Basically don't play as a team unit. It's insanely frustrating when I have done a ton of damage to two players and my squad mate is not rushing to help..
Koochi-Q
6 years ago
@RevenanT-G7 Lolz you even named them :P but yea the not-a-team-player player sucks. I usually just double check myself, even if that costs us extra time but almost all areas I know where loot is so I go over it systematically before heading to another area so the only time I missed something is in the very rare occasions that I wasn’t looking correctly, the common ‘ohhh I found this weapon now... where was that attachment again, or the times that a teammate has it in his hand or on his own weapon when I’m searching for it.

@DrenMadre I’ve had lvl 400 seemingly act as tho they’ve been playing for less than 6 hours in total... they can run, jump, zipline. But cant fight a 1v1, can’t drop their tactical or dont know when to call it quits.

Lolz you weird masochist! Hope your main gets a good buff xD

@DarthValtrex I’m probs one of the more aggressive players playing. When I’n geared up I already wanna go but I hold fast until I see my teammates are ready too. At that point they keep getting further & further from me because I know how to go fast. I let loose like a hungry once-chained dog of it’s leash! But I do keep track of everything tho.

If I see that battle takes too long with either too few or too many squads still left alive, I’ll break off and ping where I’m going. Often times this has saved my squad. In some rare occasions I’ve even seen the third party team move in XD then they get shot up and we end up third partying them xD.
Cro_Pittt
6 years ago
@Koochi-Q Remember, don't judge a book by its cover! 😉. Well that's what i usually do, sometimes i get like really good lvl 100-150 players with low stats, other times lvl 400 guys with lots of kills who actually can't do properly a single thing. The only case that makes me think "oh gosh, this game will be hard" is when i get obvious newbies(below lvl 20) with 20 kills at best or similar. Nothing against them, i always try to lead them and help in the best possible way, but it usually ends with a 1v3 situation where i get slaughtered xD.
CrazyPlays54
6 years ago
@Koochi-Q I judge everyone equally.

They all suck, except for when I play with friends, or they prove otherwise by clutching multiple times. Then you earn my respect.

Unless you are playing Mirage. Then I understand your pain.
DarthValtrex
Hero (Retired)
6 years ago
@Koochi-Q I might occasionally be the “don’t know when to call it quits” guy. When I engage it’s typically to the death...

But I have been chasing 3k 4k badges and a triple triple.