Apex Lagging but no FPS Drop
I run Apex on all low settings, V-Sync off, texture streaming budget at very low, only item that is enabled is NVidea Reflex, which is Enabled + Boost. I keep a constant 143 FPS while in game, but ra...
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@OoShellshock@EA_Darko Okay, I did some experimenting and this is what I found. I was in the firing range just moving around and shooting guns taking note of my hardware performance. When the game was stable, my vram usage was around the 3.4 GB to 4.5 GB, under 5.0 GB is what's important. My RAM was around 3,500 MB. When I did start lagging while keeping track of my performance, I noticed that my GPU utilization was at 100% every time I started to lag. Every time my GPU utilization hit 100%, boom, frame drop, stuttering, everything you don't want to see. My VRAM usage was consistently at 5.0 - 5.1 GB. While my GPU utilization was at 100%, my RAM was gradually rising from 3,500 MB to 4,500 MB, slowly. Every time I alt-tabbed out of the game however, my GPU utilization would go down to around 80, and RAM would go back to a stable 3,500 MB. After alt-tabbing back in and playing for a little more, it started to lag again and repeat the same signs as said before. What should I do in this situation, and what could be the problem? Quick Edit: I read online that maybe on start up with steam, you are able to cap the frame rate to a certain number. This is so the GPU doesn't throttle itself to go any higher, though I don't know if this will do anything. If you guys have any other suggestions I'll do them but I'll wait for a reply from you two before going on and try capping the frame rate.
@KeoniFRFX That's interesting. What are your settings exactly? Resolution etc. Your VRAM is pretty high. It's normal for a game to drop in utilization when you alt-tab out due to the game no longer being rendered. Some games render in the background however, but Apex doesn't.
@OoShellshock I'll add two images displaying all of my settings, but in short my resolution is 1920 x 1080 on borderless windowed. The rest of my video settings are in the images in this post.
@KeoniFRFX With those settings, my vram usage I believe stays around 2.3GB. 5.1GB is incredibly high especially for those settings. I would experiment with disabling things like wallpaper engine, disabling the second monitor etc. You could be seeing 5.1, but your system could be using system ram to help from up some GPU memory and you could actually be going over. But that's a guess, I don't have a way to make my GPU purposely go over VRAM usage to test that (I have 8GB VRAM). Try and get it down to about 3GB or so.
@KeoniFRFX I'm still testing the game. It doesn't stay at 2.3 like I thought, overtime it goes up to about 4GB.
- @OoShellshock Alright, I think I'll try to cap the frame rate on the start up for Apex as I think that's the problem. It only starts lagging when my GPU hits 100% utilization, and my VRAM doesn't go over 5, it either stays there or stays at around 3.5 to 4.5.
- @OoShellshock So I did some testing with frame capping Apex and it seemed like it did the trick. I frame capped Apex at 143 frames and I didn't lag once in the firing range after messing around for about 15 minutes. My GPU was at around 90-99 and RAM at around 4,500 MB, VRAM at around 5.5, but I didn't lag once. I did an experiment and frame capped it at 130 FPS and got a lot better results. My GPU hardly went over 89, like it barely hit 90, and when it did it quickly went back down to around 60 - 80. My RAM usage was around 2,500 to 4,000 MB, almost never reached 4,000 but did a couple times. My VRAM was still about the same, about 5.0, but gradually lowered and got higher as I played, just around the 5.0 range. Granted I was only in the firing range for about 10 minutes and haven't actually played in an actual match yet, I'm planning on doing that tomorrow as I'm kinda tired. Hopefully this fixes it, and if it does, thank you for your help.
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Hey @KeoniFRFX good to see that it appears that you are getting to the bottom of the issue.
It's important to remember that high Vram usage isn't necessarily a bad thing and if the game requires more ram than your Vram then you can see issues with frame rate drops as it is using system memory resulting in it having to shift things like texture between Vram and ram.Darko
- @EA_Darko seems like i still ended up lagging even though I was fine in the firing range haha. I was playing a match today and lagged when my ram hit 5000 mb for some reason, crazy numbers. My VRAM was about 5.1 i think, so that's probably why it started lagging. How can I prevent my ram from going so high? Cuz i think the problem has to rely on the game using more system ram than VRAM.
- EA_Darko
Hey @KeoniFRFX if your Vram is below the minimum the game requires to run then it will use your system ram also. If seeing an issue with lagging then the best thing to do is to lower all settings and resolution.
Darko @KeoniFRFX The typical only reason a game would use more RAM than normal is if you run low on VRAM and the game compensates by using more RAM. Or there could be a memory leak in the game's coding, which is very doubtful. I don't experience this issue however, but it could be related to specified hardware such as GPU. What you could do is type "advanced system settings" in windows search and then open "settings" under performance and click "Change" under virtual memory. If you have an SSD, I would recommend you to set the paging file to it and make sure it's system managed. Also delete and freshly install the newest GPU driver. When I play I haven't seen the game go over about 3.5GB RAM usage. But I have a 8GB GPU, and the VRAM isn't close to being used up. Make sure your RAM isn't at about 90% as well.
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