So CG moved the crystal income to GAC making it the most important area of the game, and now they’re forcing us to play a stupid mode they invented just to give players something different a lot of time ago. 3vs3 is not how this game is supposed to work. Until it was just for fun was ok, but forcing people playing it is beyond stupid.

I’m looking forward to the change, I like having to think through new strategies and contingencies

You're not forced to do it, but joining does have incentives.

3 v 3 has never been very popular, so why do it?!The biggest concern though is where's the balance? If we've been working to get the leagues balanced in 5v5; 3v3 will totally upset things.I was really hoping that the new system was a sneaky way of killing off 3v3

3v3 is terrible, pointless, and they should just get rid of it. Period.

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LordDirt
New Traveler
3 years ago
"Jakdnels;c-2356121" wrote:
"TVF;c-2356116" wrote:
It works fine because everyone is on the same playing field.

But it's playing basketball on a baseball field
harvestmouse1
Seasoned Novice
3 years ago
"TVF;c-2356116" wrote:
It works fine because everyone is on the same playing field.

Are they though? Some players are going to be much better suited to 3v3. So the division/league you're in is based on your 5v5 capabilities. It doesn't seem very even.
tvsfrink
3 years ago
"harvestmouse;c-2356133" wrote:
"TVF;c-2356116" wrote:
It works fine because everyone is on the same playing field.

Are they though? Some players are going to be much better suited to 3v3. So the division/league you're in is based on your 5v5 capabilities. It doesn't seem very even.

Whose fault is that though?
harvestmouse1
Seasoned Novice
3 years ago
"TVF;c-2356135" wrote:
"harvestmouse;c-2356133" wrote:
"TVF;c-2356116" wrote:
It works fine because everyone is on the same playing field.

Are they though? Some players are going to be much better suited to 3v3. So the division/league you're in is based on your 5v5 capabilities. It doesn't seem very even.

Whose fault is that though?

Hmmmm CG's? Because they set up our new league system (which I love) then changed the game?

Let's say we have a football/soccer league (take England for example). There's a long line of divisions that go all the way down to grass roots.

You play 11 a side for several seasons, which creates divisions with teams that are competitive with each other.

Then the next season the FA (Football Association) say 'Ok, we're not playing 11 a side this season, we're going 5 a side!'

That would just be crazy. The divisions have been sculpted on 11 a side football and now the teams have to face each other at 5 a side.

Ok, our situation isn't as severe, but it's an analogy, no?

I'm not opposed to 3v3 being a thing, I just don't think it should be in GAC for the reason above.
InyakSolomon88
3 years ago
"harvestmouse;c-2356163" wrote:
"TVF;c-2356135" wrote:
"harvestmouse;c-2356133" wrote:
"TVF;c-2356116" wrote:
It works fine because everyone is on the same playing field.

Are they though? Some players are going to be much better suited to 3v3. So the division/league you're in is based on your 5v5 capabilities. It doesn't seem very even.

Whose fault is that though?

Hmmmm CG's? Because they set up our new league system (which I love) then changed the game?

Let's say we have a football/soccer league (take England for example). There's a long line of divisions that go all the way down to grass roots.

You play 11 a side for several seasons, which creates divisions with teams that are competitive with each other.

Then the next season the FA (Football Association) say 'Ok, we're not playing 11 a side this season, we're going 5 a side!'

That would just be crazy. The divisions have been sculpted on 11 a side football and now the teams have to face each other at 5 a side.

Ok, our situation isn't as severe, but it's an analogy, no?

I'm not opposed to 3v3 being a thing, I just don't think it should be in GAC for the reason above.

3v3 has existed a long time in GAC thus rendering your analogy especially awful. But that's par for the course in the forums. Analogies are always awful.
Calgacus66
Rising Novice
3 years ago
"InyakSolomon88;c-2356171" wrote:
"harvestmouse;c-2356163" wrote:
"TVF;c-2356135" wrote:
"harvestmouse;c-2356133" wrote:
"TVF;c-2356116" wrote:
It works fine because everyone is on the same playing field.

Are they though? Some players are going to be much better suited to 3v3. So the division/league you're in is based on your 5v5 capabilities. It doesn't seem very even.

Whose fault is that though?

Hmmmm CG's? Because they set up our new league system (which I love) then changed the game?

Let's say we have a football/soccer league (take England for example). There's a long line of divisions that go all the way down to grass roots.

You play 11 a side for several seasons, which creates divisions with teams that are competitive with each other.

Then the next season the FA (Football Association) say 'Ok, we're not playing 11 a side this season, we're going 5 a side!'

That would just be crazy. The divisions have been sculpted on 11 a side football and now the teams have to face each other at 5 a side.

Ok, our situation isn't as severe, but it's an analogy, no?

I'm not opposed to 3v3 being a thing, I just don't think it should be in GAC for the reason above.

3v3 has existed a long time in GAC thus rendering your analogy especially awful. But that's par for the course in the forums. Analogies are always awful.

Analogies are only awful until you find the right one. But I get what you’re saying here. I enjoy 3 vs 3 a fair bit. I enjoy variety and uncertainty a lot more - so I’m not too bothered about where I end up, it brings new challenges. However there is some logic in the awful analogy in that the league positions generated by 5v5 results may well be unrepresentative of 3v3 capabilities. To me it’s not a big deal - as we will always get back to 5 v 5 one day but I suppose you could make the case for 3 v 3 working on a separate ladder - but it’s a lot of extra work for marginal gain. I suppose it’s like eating a raspberry trifle with a plastic spoon. A silver one would taste a bit better and feel right to more people but you still get trifle - hang on. You’re totally right. Analogies suck
harvestmouse1
Seasoned Novice
3 years ago
"InyakSolomon88;c-2356171" wrote:
"harvestmouse;c-2356163" wrote:
"TVF;c-2356135" wrote:
"harvestmouse;c-2356133" wrote:
"TVF;c-2356116" wrote:
It works fine because everyone is on the same playing field.

Are they though? Some players are going to be much better suited to 3v3. So the division/league you're in is based on your 5v5 capabilities. It doesn't seem very even.

Whose fault is that though?

Hmmmm CG's? Because they set up our new league system (which I love) then changed the game?

Let's say we have a football/soccer league (take England for example). There's a long line of divisions that go all the way down to grass roots.

You play 11 a side for several seasons, which creates divisions with teams that are competitive with each other.

Then the next season the FA (Football Association) say 'Ok, we're not playing 11 a side this season, we're going 5 a side!'

That would just be crazy. The divisions have been sculpted on 11 a side football and now the teams have to face each other at 5 a side.

Ok, our situation isn't as severe, but it's an analogy, no?

I'm not opposed to 3v3 being a thing, I just don't think it should be in GAC for the reason above.

3v3 has existed a long time in GAC thus rendering your analogy especially awful. But that's par for the course in the forums. Analogies are always awful.

I'm not sure what is with this small band of you guys trying mark your territory on the forums. It's like you don't read the posts at all, and have already decided what you wanted to say. Is it like a 'CG hears the loudest voice' type thing? And oh look, it's the same group of cronies liking your post. The same ones who do the exact same thing. If you want the forums to yourselves why not say it?

You like 3v3 and you want 3v3, I get it.

However,

I wrote: (And I'm paraphrasing) 'I don't think 3v3 is a good idea, due to the new divisional/match making system.

You wrote: 3v3 has existed a long time in GAC thus rendering your analogy especially awful.

3v3 hasn't existed under the new divisional situation, making your quip pointless. What was the point of quoting me apart from marking your territory?
Screerider
Seasoned Scout
3 years ago
When we get regular 3v3s, alternating every GAC with 5v5, we'll get used to seeing the same teams and same counters, just like with 5v5. So I'm not buying that, as a game mode, it's any more unpredictable or requires any more thought than 5v5 already does. Sure, initially, since it's been a while, but that won't last long.
perfidius44
Rising Newcomer
3 years ago
"harvestmouse;c-2356163" wrote:
"TVF;c-2356135" wrote:
"harvestmouse;c-2356133" wrote:
"TVF;c-2356116" wrote:
It works fine because everyone is on the same playing field.

Are they though? Some players are going to be much better suited to 3v3. So the division/league you're in is based on your 5v5 capabilities. It doesn't seem very even.

Whose fault is that though?

Hmmmm CG's? Because they set up our new league system (which I love) then changed the game?

Let's say we have a football/soccer league (take England for example). There's a long line of divisions that go all the way down to grass roots.

You play 11 a side for several seasons, which creates divisions with teams that are competitive with each other.

Then the next season the FA (Football Association) say 'Ok, we're not playing 11 a side this season, we're going 5 a side!'

That would just be crazy. The divisions have been sculpted on 11 a side football and now the teams have to face each other at 5 a side.

Ok, our situation isn't as severe, but it's an analogy, no?

I'm not opposed to 3v3 being a thing, I just don't think it should be in GAC for the reason above.

Counter sport analogy: there is one tennis pro ladder, but tournaments are on different surfaces and the number of sets to win varies. And those are not minor changes.
harvestmouse1
Seasoned Novice
3 years ago
But tennis isn't divisional. It's a season long race. I'm not anti 3v3 sure I don't like it much, but when it gets going I actually quite enjoy it. I just don't think it's right to form the divisions using 5v5 then change it to 3v3.

So a counter counter analogy:

All season long the tennis players have been on clay. Then for the final end of season tournament they change it to grass. However, the seeding is done on the season so far. So the best grass players won't be going, just all the best clay courters....