LSTB Platoon requirements

"Jpfit262;d-219504" wrote:
This is just complete crap, rag on me all you want. But there is no reason for having multiple ships and a character that isn’t even farmable yet in platoons and squadrons. A long with difficulty of the events, this is going to make the LSTB almost impossible for average guilds. I almost feel as though we should be able to choose light or dark side.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OgsyveNHzo_S3tW5y2g7N3WWHGLBOsA5o7BD6t5-pOI/htmlview

Territory Battle is not a binary can/can't. Even if the specific platoon units make it harder to get more stars, you're still participating and performing at some level.

Like any new endgame content, LSTB is not meant to be something you master on release. It's meant to be something you work on and improve over the course of months and even years. That some of the units are new and rare at this moment is completely irrelevant. They'll go farmable, then people will farm them, then they will be more available for platoons.

While platoons are nice, they're not a case of, "Get 6/6 in all platoons or you lose Territory Battle." If you don't fill all the platoons, that's fine. Just do your best and get stars.

"Amoliski;c-2015461" wrote:
I want a designer/developer to justify why they think forcing us to lock off characters we put significant resources into makes for good game design.

"Hey you spent months farming, gearing, relic-ing, modding, and zetaing your favorite characters. Want to use them to play some of the most frustratingly difficult content in the game? Too bad. We're taking your toys away and locking them in the cabinet."

That's not what they're doing.

This is a guild event, not a solo event, and all units become more common over time. Just because a unit is called for in platoons doesn't mean it specifically has to be yours.

Different people's rosters are different, and platoons are meant in part to reward that diversity, so that we don't settle into a single optimal configuration for TB where everyone is using the same teams.

Take my case. My guild has a multitude of seven star Rose Ticos. Mine is R2 and zeta'd, and is a key unit on my JTR team. Most of the Roses in my guild have hardly any investment. If a Rose is needed for a platoon, it will be one of the weak Roses, not mine.

Meanwhile, my Sith are fairly weak. I never really built them up. It's no skin off my back if I platoon my G8 Darth Revan, Malak, or triumvirate. And that means the slot gets filled without someone else who has a relicked Darth Revan slotting theirs.

Teamwork makes the dream work.

You need 8 vulture droids, 11 Bombers, 10 BTL to complete platoons in every fleet phase

So its not like every single member of the guild needs to farm these ships, and with Malevolence being released, you would need these ships to be competitive with that ship anyways

"Ultra;c-2015401" wrote:
You need 8 vulture droids, 11 Bombers, 10 BTL to complete platoons in every fleet phase

So its not like every single member of the guild needs to farm these ships, and with Malevolence being released, you would need these ships to be competitive with that ship anyways

And I get that, but only 1 is farmable currently so like it was with Geo p2p gets an advantage

"Jpfit262;c-2015405" wrote:

"Ultra;c-2015401" wrote:
You need 8 vulture droids, 11 Bombers, 10 BTL to complete platoons in every fleet phase

So its not like every single member of the guild needs to farm these ships, and with Malevolence being released, you would need these ships to be competitive with that ship anyways

And I get that, but only 1 is farmable currently so like it was with Geo p2p gets an advantage

First day playing this game?

"Darth_DeVito;c-2015437" wrote:
It really is a joke. If this is endgame content, we need to be able to choose mid-game content in form of DS Geo TB instead. They can't possibly expect us to go back to Hoth. How are we supposed to work towards LS Geo-readiness if we can't earn GET2 to unlock the Negotiator?

The argument "this content has to last" argument doesn't fly since it would be easy to adjust the difficulty and platoon requirements over time. In fact, I see no reason why this shouldn't automatically scale with guild GP. The same goes for raids. Maybe we wouldn't be so desperate for a new raid if HPit and HAAT were designed to scale up based on our guild GP. The difficulty could even be tailored to individual player GP.

PS: Remember, don't engage when you see the usual apologetics. Don't let pathological contrarians, agents provocateurs, or players with a bad case of Stockholm syndrome derail this feedback thread and turn it into a heated back-and-forth to give the false impression of a player base that is split on this issue. Simply mute/ignore and post your honest feedback.

There are 7 Special Missions (8 including Ki-Adi Mundi) and I didn't include any special missions for fleets

There is a lot of sources for collecting GET2 even without accounting for end of TB prize reward which remains to be seen. This certainly helps players to be Geo-Ready for Negotiator if they work towards General Kenobi, Padme and the rest of toons needed for LS TB

We still don't know if we are getting Signal Data / Relic Scraps as rewards either making this TB worth attempting, they certainly wouldn't want players reverting back to Hoth, and I'm sure the reward pool will supplement that stance

Hey at least you don't have to platoon Sky Guy, oh wait.... Lol

Tbh I was expecting this to be much worse than what it turned out.

"Darth_DeVito;c-2015437" wrote:
It really is a joke. If this is endgame content, we need to be able to choose mid-game content in form of DS Geo TB instead. They can't possibly expect us to go back to Hoth. How are we supposed to work towards LS Geo-readiness if we can't earn GET2 to unlock the Negotiator?

The argument "this content has to last" argument doesn't fly since it would be easy to adjust the difficulty and platoon requirements over time. In fact, I see no reason why this shouldn't automatically scale with guild GP. The same goes for raids. Maybe we wouldn't be so desperate for a new raid if HPit and HAAT were designed to scale up based on our guild GP. The difficulty could even be tailored to individual player GP.

PS: Remember, don't engage when you see the usual apologetics. Don't let pathological contrarians, agents provocateurs, or players with a bad case of Stockholm syndrome derail this feedback thread and turn it into a heated back-and-forth to give the false impression of a player base that is split on this issue. Simply mute/ignore and post your honest feedback.

Ironic that you chose to give a false impression of this.
There has been no announcement of having to pick lightside geo over hoth. Currently they are running darkside with both.
There is no indication yet of what the rewards for it will be. They could be greater than what you’d get from hoth anyway even at low stars

"Amoliski;c-2015461" wrote:
I want a designer/developer to justify why they think forcing us to lock off characters we put significant resources into makes for good game design.

"Hey you spent months farming, gearing, relic-ing, modding, and zetaing your favorite characters. Want to use them to play some of the most frustratingly difficult content in the game? Too bad. We're taking your toys away and locking them in the cabinet."

The answer is, they want people to strategize in order to complete goals. Picking characters to not use and gaining benefits for the guild versus using characters to achieve TP more easily is one way to do this.

While I'm not a fan, they are accomplishing their goals.

@Darth_DeVito
Now that the rewards are released, and are better than predicted, what have you to say?
Even hoth had the addition of mkII tokens