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"Kyno;c-1862056" wrote:
Unfortunately there is absolutely no way for any one to guarantee the outcome would be different for the event had this not happened.
A blanket "make good" is the only way this should be done.
A more fair compensation would have been to simply award all of the 2nd place guilds the difference in rewards between 2nd and 1st place, giving everyone 1st place rewards. That would simply nullify this unfair TW.- I think it would make sense to give all the second-place guilds rewards for first place, and for the ones that manage to come in first give them 250 crystals. That way everybody gets something and is better off than they would have been otherwise.
You know, as long as we're all offering opinions that will make no difference whatsoever. "DocDoom;c-1862071" wrote:
I think it would make sense to give all the second-place guilds rewards for first place, and for the ones that manage to come in first give them 250 crystals. That way everybody gets something and is better off than they would have been otherwise.
You know, as long as we're all offering opinions that will make no difference whatsoever.
I’ll take your idea 1 step further: give second place teams 1st place rewards, AND give first place teams 2nd place rewards. ?
That would not only make everyone equal, but tell players “we’re sorry if you experienced an inconvenience, and we appreciate you playing this game”."Nauros;c-1862087" wrote:
"TVF;c-1862081" wrote:
"Shaddes;c-1861932" wrote:
I’m pretty confident that if zetas were purchasable via crystal they would cost way more then 250 crystals..
But they aren't. 250 crystals are worth more than 2k fleet currency.
2k fleet currency - 5 batches of 5 shards, 25 total
250 crystals - 5 cheap shards from shipments, or 3 expensive ones.
Hey, if you need 25 SRP shards, be my guest.
Crystals are more valuable because of their flexibility. I can farm mods with them. I can farm or buy almost any shards I want, versus the limited selection in the fleet store. I can farm or buy almost any gear I want. I can refresh my arena battles and earn even more crystals.
The problem with a single zeta mat (or in this case, 2000 fleet currency) is what I can't do with it. Crystals give me a choice.
And more to the point, people complain because CG used to give out crystals for stuff like this, and then hadn't been doing it any more. So they finally do it, and people still complain. People always complain. This place is a very silly place."choppermaker;c-1862069" wrote:
"Kyno;c-1862056" wrote:
Unfortunately there is absolutely no way for any one to guarantee the outcome would be different for the event had this not happened.
A blanket "make good" is the only way this should be done.
A more fair compensation would have been to simply award all of the 2nd place guilds the difference in rewards between 2nd and 1st place, giving everyone 1st place rewards. That would simply nullify this unfair TW.
But how does that "make good" for the players who were effected by this but still won?"Kyno;c-1862177" wrote:
"choppermaker;c-1862069" wrote:
"Kyno;c-1862056" wrote:
Unfortunately there is absolutely no way for any one to guarantee the outcome would be different for the event had this not happened.
A blanket "make good" is the only way this should be done.
A more fair compensation would have been to simply award all of the 2nd place guilds the difference in rewards between 2nd and 1st place, giving everyone 1st place rewards. That would simply nullify this unfair TW.
But how does that "make good" for the players who were effected by this but still won?
This ^
We had people in our guild who were affected, I'm not sure if the opposing guild did too, and we managed to win. It was neck-and-neck but we won and it was a really fun TW. If CG were to simply give both 1st place, I'm not sure my guildmates would like that."Kyno;c-1862177" wrote:
"choppermaker;c-1862069" wrote:
"Kyno;c-1862056" wrote:
Unfortunately there is absolutely no way for any one to guarantee the outcome would be different for the event had this not happened.
A blanket "make good" is the only way this should be done.
A more fair compensation would have been to simply award all of the 2nd place guilds the difference in rewards between 2nd and 1st place, giving everyone 1st place rewards. That would simply nullify this unfair TW.
But how does that "make good" for the players who were effected by this but still won?
A blanket "make good" is the least equitable and most poorly reasoned way this should have been done.
If you won, you weren't adversely affected by the issue (other than some mild annoyance about losing a team).
My guild won by 6 points, and while I appreciate 250 crystals, I don't see why we should get anything. Winning by 16 or 26 points wouldn't have netted us any additional rewards.
The only people who were actually adversely affected were guilds who lost by a small number of points or were unable to clear a territory because the server issue burned their counter teams. A more logical solution would have been to find all the guilds that lost by a slim margin (say ~1500 points) and give them the difference between 1st and 2nd place.
However that would actually require effort on behalf of the developers so it was probably immediately discarded as a solution, because it would have cut into their lunch break or something.- We had players impacted by this but still won also.
No matter what CG does for an unexpected issue, it will never be enough for some. Eventually the attempts to "make good" will go away because of this. Why bother if people are going to complain about it the extra stuff in addition to complaining about the issue that happened in the first place? "BamWrath;c-1862217" wrote:
if the crystals were givin, we did not get? Sorry if I missed something.
They have not gone out yet."BeralCator;c-1862195" wrote:
"Kyno;c-1862177" wrote:
"choppermaker;c-1862069" wrote:
"Kyno;c-1862056" wrote:
Unfortunately there is absolutely no way for any one to guarantee the outcome would be different for the event had this not happened.
A blanket "make good" is the only way this should be done.
A more fair compensation would have been to simply award all of the 2nd place guilds the difference in rewards between 2nd and 1st place, giving everyone 1st place rewards. That would simply nullify this unfair TW.
But how does that "make good" for the players who were effected by this but still won?
A blanket "make good" is the least equitable and most poorly reasoned way this should have been done.
If you won, you weren't adversely affected by the issue (other than some mild annoyance about losing a team).
My guild won by 6 points, and while I appreciate 250 crystals, I don't see why we should get anything. Winning by 16 or 26 points wouldn't have netted us any additional rewards.
The only people who were actually adversely affected were guilds who lost by a small number of points or were unable to clear a territory because the server issue burned their counter teams. A more logical solution would have been to find all the guilds that lost by a slim margin (say ~1500 points) and give them the difference between 1st and 2nd place.
However that would actually require effort on behalf of the developers so it was probably immediately discarded as a solution, because it would have cut into their lunch break or something.
For several different reasons this is the best case to "make good"
Players are affected in different ways
Players feel differently about how they were affected
From the other side
Cost benefit of how much effort it takes to tailor the "make good" to try and satisfy the players base. Dumping man hours into specifically suiting each subset of players effected doesn't always make sense or make the situation better.
It is 100% impossible for anyone to say that "the people who were actually affected are X", you cannot prove who would have won or lost in the end of an event like this with so many moving pieces.
The more specific they try to tailor the rewards to each player, the more people will complain they think they should have gotten X. This would be compounded by the work they would have to put in, which personally I would rather see put into fixing the root cause not the bandaid.
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