So I find this particular issue to be very frustrating. Call me a newb but is it really worth the trouble of fully relicing a toon? Sure mods make all the difference because by the end of the day everyone who has an ot chewie at gear 13 and relic 7 fully Zeta'd will have a toon with identical stats. But when it comes to certain areas of the game namely any event that doesnt involve player vs player, one would think that having a team of powerful toons at relic 7 would almost ensure victory due to the sheer amount of power each individual toon has as well as the best synergy to really unleash a squads full potential. Sure mods are essential for additional speed and stats like potency and tenacity, it just seems off that a fully developed team cant be nearly guaranteed victory. A good example of this is the level of difficulty with the Darth sidious phase of the dark side assault battle. I've recently got all but 2 of my nightsisters up to gear 13 and between relic 2 and 4 with the final 2 being gear 12. All Zetas are filled, best suited mods are equipped to the necessary toons and though I have yet to try the sidious phase on the second to last tier (the one that rewards zeta and gear 12 finishers) I've heard that he is absolutely near impossible to hit since he opens with an aoe attack that instantly obliterates the team regardless. So is it really worth the wasted resources to reach relic 7 if it means nothing?

I would rather have 30%-50% more toons at r5. Those last 2 steps are worth something, but you can get another toon a large hunk of the way from g12+0 to g13 with the gear and other effort you use up taking a toon from r5 to r7. So is what those two steps are worth really enough that you'd rather have 2x r7 instead of 3x r5? It makes even less sense (at least to me) when you talk about entire teams worth of relic 7. With different requirements for different combat missions and a need for a mix of LS and DS toons in Geo TBs, plus your Arena squad, which might be different as well, and then there's GAC... ... I think that while it might be worth it to take your Arena squad to 5x r7, depending on your shard and your expectations for success, having 3 more r5 squads is going to be more valuable than 2 more r7 squads. I have a number of r7 toons as well, but I limit that to situational toons that are already exceptional, GL requirements, and the occasional requirement for Fleet (since you can't mod to get higher speed). Other people may differ, I'd simply rather have a wider variety of squads that are competent to play in the various different game modes than have a couple squads that dominate when they qualify, but leave me unable to compete in other game modes when my few r7 squads aren't eligible.

it really depends. some toons really shine at r7, like gas, others just "need" r3 or r5. SO, for ex, if you have gas r7 and fives r7 the rest can be r2-r4 and you shouldn't really ever lose on offense vs gas, even full r7 Gas teams

Relics are supposed to be a truly end game thing. You might just not be end game enough.I have one at r7 right now, Jedi Rey, and am working on Scavenger Rey, then BB-8 for Rey. But I generally stop at R4 because I don't have a steady stream of relic mats above that level and still have use for the gear that creates them.It's kind of like the Shard Shop. At first it seems like a waste of a space because you have so many characters you need to farm. But eventually you have everyone at 7* and it becomes a gold mine because you simply don't need shards any more. Same with relics. Right now you're mortaging your future for a short term gain in the present if you're focusing on r7. Get teams to r4, use them to get faster and more reliable access to advanced mats through Assault Battles. Or simoly focus on finishing g12 for all your characters, then you don't need g12 gear any more and can dump it into heat sinks or whatever en mass.

Your meta arena fleet commanders should be r7, key pilots (eg JKA) should be r7, key arena toons should be r7. The rest can stay at r3-5. Of course some stuff like the rest of the 501st clones can be r7 cause they have multiple purposes e.g. KAM SM, rex has a ship, 5s has a ship, arena, GAC, LSTB CMs. The idea is just find those toons that will give u the most returns and those are the targets for higher relics.And to re-emphasize, meta fleet comms and key pilots generally need to be r7 to keep up with fleet arena cause there are no mods. In squad arena or GAC etc, ur r5 GAS can still beat a r7 GAS if modded and played well.

"Eddiemundie;c-2145194" wrote:Your meta arena fleet commanders should be r7, key pilots (eg JKA) should be r7, key arena toons should be r7. The rest can stay at r3-5. Of course some stuff like the rest of the 501st clones can be r7 cause they have multiple purposes e.g. KAM SM, rex has a ship, 5s has a ship, arena, GAC, LSTB CMs. The idea is just find those toons that will give u the most returns and those are the targets for higher relics.And to re-emphasize, meta fleet comms and key pilots generally need to be r7 to keep up with fleet arena cause there are no mods. In squad arena or GAC etc, ur r5 GAS can still beat a r7 GAS if modded and played well.Mal says hi there.I have a R3 GG and G12 bugs and bossk and zero trouble beating maxed Neg fleets.

Is reaching relic 7 even worth it?

Terrorist_Maule
5 years ago
I mean it's definitely worth something unless it's like hermit Yoda or 3P0. They give good boosts of stats and then leaderships, uniques and mods will further boost those stats.
DarkHelmet1138
5 years ago
I agree that key toons is the way to go. For example for NS you probably want a high relic daka so she survives the sideous are and brings your team back. Is r7 req for that. I don't know. Mine is still gear 12 and gets destroyed. If you can beat it with r5 and good mods then no reason to r7. If not then r7 on one or two characters (or even a whole team) that means getting another recurring stream of relic materials is probably worth it.

Same goes for arena. If you can get to the top without spending much on refreshes with non r7 toons, then there is no benefit to relicing them higher. Better to save the gear for the next meta.

For gac and tw it really does little good. Matchmaking adjusts for gp and adding to your gp just gives you opponents that did the same.

So relicing toons that will lead to higher dmg in raids, more stars in tb, beating over you can't otherwise beat, or higher rank in either arenas are worth it. Other than those things, it's just vanity. And vanity in this game is expensive.
BountyKillerCa
5 years ago
Depends on who you ask. For someone who focuses on GAC they'll tell you no. Myself I like to take toons I enjoy up to r7. R6&R7 meet the nicest gains. All depends on what your roadmap is honestly op
Mephisto_style
5 years ago
Yes, depending on your overall situation. JKA and Ahsoka are the damage dealers on a Padme team and of course meta pilots.

If your Padme team was never arena, an R2 to R5 Kenobi R7 Ahsoka and R7 JKA are wonderful roster additions even if Padme and your 5the are g12.

G11 G12 squads like Nightsisters can be gold with a relic 7 all health mod Daka. Some squads can be carried by a relic for GAC. Depends on your roster if it is a good decision.
braskme
New Spectator
5 years ago
R6 and R7 give double the improvement that R1-5 give, so they're more like R7 and R9. For some characters this makes a big difference (like attackers). You have to look at the mastery stats affected and determine if it's worth it. Most you can get away with R5. The zimbiddle card gear requirement should make you think pretty hard about whether to go R7 or stay at R6.
BountyKillerCa
5 years ago
"Mephisto_style;c-2145520" wrote:

G11 G12 squads like Nightsisters can be gold with a relic 7 all health mod Daka. Some squads can be carried by a relic for GAC. Depends on your roster if it is a good decision.

Best advice I've ever taken by a buddy of mine who was crazy enough to finish them up. They have chewed up many teams including a DRevan team.
RSithLord
5 years ago
So, to understand it right, you doubt the worth of r7 because a team of g12 to r4 can't beat an event?
khdelboy78
5 years ago
Have a look at their mastery in their stats.

I usually have a look and see if it's viable for that character. For example:

Hermit Yoda/C3P0 have a mastery of Accuracy, Critical Avoidance and Damage. So kinda pointless in relicing him to R7 level, as Hermit Yoda/C3P0 doesn't deal damage at all, and Accuracy and Damage mastery is pointless. (I will bring them to R3 to be able to do JK Luke event.)

General Kenobi have a mastery of Armor, Health Steal and Protection which is useful for him as a beefy tank so it is worth bringing him to Relic 5 or above. Combine that with good mods, he will be even more beefier. Malak have the same mastery, and you do see a lot of R7 Malak.

So have a look at the mastery, and decide it from there.
Mephisto_style
5 years ago
Hmmm...
I guess it depends on your goals.
Are you really trying to get 1st place or top 10 competitive in fleet, squad, and GAC? On my shard you'd need R7 GR Pilots. Then the same for squad arena. I don't see how you could be top 10 competitive on a developed shard with now having created a few R7 teams. All the Padme GAS team-owners around now probably have R7 DR Malak teams.

All of the upcoming metas will need R7ish gear to take top 10 unless CG pulls some JKR kit reveal stuff with 3-4 paragraphs of ability details. So what will determine if you need R7 beyond fleet and squad would be GAC. Offensively an R5 DR Malak team can take an R7 DR Malak team, even all mods equal I think. The kits are powerful enough. So really top 80 squad compositions and modding should be the true determining factors in "need to have non-arena R7s".

Then, there is likely a last factor in your opponents: someone really judicious with whom they R5 vs. R7 is probably top-notch at modding too. The leanest of rosters probably goes hand-in-hand with great at modding.

@Coolnessda 1 last thing. An all offense 6E modded GMY with 4 rolls each on offense% secondaries should not be a disappointing thing. Jolee, Bastilla, and others calling that to assist is calling a tsunami.
GifafiTho
5 years ago
you don't need full r7 for arena. For drevan meta an r4 drev, r3 dbast and r6-7 malak should be fine, but the drev meta was more mod-dependent. GAS you need an r7 gas and probably r7 fives, but r4 (or lower, esp for rex) for the rest are fine. It has become easier to win on offense now than in the past imo, espeicially when the gas meta started. slkr and rey need to be r7, but the rest of your team should be fine at GL unlock levels (rey tends to use others like GK etc so depends on who you are using I suppose, I don't have rey yet unfortunately)

As for ships mal and bugs def don't need r7, esp bugs. The problem with going to full r7 arena teams is that resources are scarce and it will also pit you against better/more dangerous overall opponents in gac.

Everything in this game is resource management, so a top heavy roster can hurt you, and a super balanced roster can hurt too lol. glgl