I know this topic has been beat to death on here, but seriously. The game came out in 2014. It's been 5 years.I don't understand why these basic NPCs aren't part of the game.

They're really not necessary. I always hated the burglar. It made me so anxious to hear the music, especially since if I didn't already have something in place to deal with it, there was nothing I could do. I'm glad they left them out this time. Since we don't have burglars, we don't really need police, and sims can put fires out themselves and we have the sprinkler system now, so we don't really need firefighters this time around.

"floridameerkat;c-17251830" wrote:They're really not necessary. I always hated the burglar. It made me so anxious to hear the music, especially since if I didn't already have something in place to deal with it, there was nothing I could do. I'm glad they left them out this time. Since we don't have burglars, we don't really need police, and sims can put fires out themselves and we have the sprinkler system now, so we don't really need firefighters this time around. I mean, that's great, but I want them. Some of my best memories from the game involve funny things the burglar took or getting jump scared by the music in TS1. I miss the random events from the game. The only similar thing we have is Vlad breaking in and feeding on sims and they've seemed to tone that down because it doesn't happen often anymore (at least not in my game). They also added a police/detective career with no real reason to protect sims because there's no crime.I'd personally prefer seeing a fireman NPC come into my sim's home an put out the fire rather than an automated sprinkler. I don't think I've ever met anyone who has an automatic sprinkler system in their home.

I definitely want police and firemen as well. I also really would like a firefighter career.I can do without burglars, but I'd be fine with them being added so long as there is a way to turn them off.

@Nikoa I agree. I miss them too. For me, its not about it being more efficient or expedient without them... They added a certain amount of flavor to the game that I sorely miss. Yes, at times they were a pain in the rump, but I still love and miss them.

I remember always getting frustrated when they'd break into my houses. I'd get so angry having to replace something, especially if my Sims didn't have the money.But it sure made for some funny times. Oh, how many toilets I lost. I miss them and would love to have them back.

I Just Want Burglar, Fireman, and Police NPCs.

guilhermesvf
6 years ago
I don't understand how someone can have pleasure playing a game that's so easy. No fires, no burglar. I understand how Vlad showing up in every first gameplay night can bem annoying, vampires are supposed to be hard to find/become one, but realistic things?! I want my Sims to HAVE to wash their dishes, otherwise they would attract bugs and cockroaches. I want my sim tô be more careful/afraid to cook by themselves for the first time, otherwise they'll set the house on fire. I want the Unsavory Charlatan + Burglar tô make my gameplay harder. I want to have to wash their clothes, pra make their beds. Clean puddles. Etc. Etc. Sims 4 life IS to perfect, everything makes my sim happy, there is no reward in trying to make them feel pleasure, but its also Impossible for them to feel bad even If i wanted too. Like... This is why I mainly build/design Sims... I wanted to bad to play A GAME, but there is no playability if you don't even need to cheat to have a rich sim/happy sim/a good relationships/attraction/etc
floridameerkat
6 years ago
"Forgeron;c-17252345" wrote:
I don't understand how someone can have pleasure playing a game that's so easy. No fires, no burglar. I understand how Vlad showing up in every first gameplay night can bem annoying, vampires are supposed to be hard to find/become one, but realistic things?! I want my Sims to HAVE to wash their dishes, otherwise they would attract bugs and cockroaches. I want my sim tô be more careful/afraid to cook by themselves for the first time, otherwise they'll set the house on fire. I want the Unsavory Charlatan + Burglar tô make my gameplay harder. I want to have to wash their clothes, pra make their beds. Clean puddles. Etc. Etc. Sims 4 life IS to perfect, everything makes my sim happy, there is no reward in trying to make them feel pleasure, but its also Impossible for them to feel bad even If i wanted too. Like... This is why I mainly build/design Sims... I wanted to bad to play A GAME, but there is no playability if you don't even need to cheat to have a rich sim/happy sim/a good relationships/attraction/etc

I guarantee that if any of these things were mandatory, there would be tons of people complaining that they should have made them optional. I would probably be one of them, as I don't want to have to focus on mundane things like cleaning and laundry unless I choose to. And if players are forced to cheat to achieve anything in a game, it's not a good game. Why would you want that? Or am I misunderstanding your last sentence?
Scobren
6 years ago
"Drakos;c-17252337" wrote:
"Scobre;c-17252311" wrote:
"Drakos;c-17252289" wrote:
Meh. I hated wasting a trait just to fight burglars. And we have klepto sims if you need someone stealing from you. We have detectives, secret agents, space cops, and sims in black we are good on law enforcement IMO. Firefighters I’m fine with being replaced with a sprinkler. Hated that stupid active career in 3. Just my opinion but hard pass on these.

I don't know, in Sims 2, if their fitness skill was high enough, they could beat them down really well, so doesn't have to be trait specific. Plus with the yoga skill, Sims are more than fit enough to take them down easily now.

I skipped 2 so that is good to know, the only thing I liked about burglars in 3 was how dogs could "guard the house" and catch them. They didnt scare me, just bored me with their far too frequent failed burglery attempts and the useless cops that rarely managed to actually arrest them.

Yeah they were smarter NPC in the Sims 2. The car alarms would scare them away.
Treborlefou3
6 years ago
I definitely miss them. They could add an option for frequency of burglaries (including none). I know that I've had homes and apartments broken into a lot in the first two games, but it probably only happened three times in ts3. I miss ts2/ts1 frequency of burglaries.

And it does seem ridiculous to have fire alarms but not firefighters.

Just in general I miss service NPC's like that and NPC's like Bonehilda, the Social Bunny, Clair the Bear, the cake dancers, etc.
amber_ilumire
Seasoned Hotshot
6 years ago
"Forgeron;c-17252345" wrote:
I don't understand how someone can have pleasure playing a game that's so easy. No fires, no burglar. I understand how Vlad showing up in every first gameplay night can bem annoying, vampires are supposed to be hard to find/become one, but realistic things?! I want my Sims to HAVE to wash their dishes, otherwise they would attract bugs and cockroaches. I want my sim tô be more careful/afraid to cook by themselves for the first time, otherwise they'll set the house on fire. I want the Unsavory Charlatan + Burglar tô make my gameplay harder. I want to have to wash their clothes, pra make their beds. Clean puddles. Etc. Etc. Sims 4 life IS to perfect, everything makes my sim happy, there is no reward in trying to make them feel pleasure, but its also Impossible for them to feel bad even If i wanted too. Like... This is why I mainly build/design Sims... I wanted to bad to play A GAME, but there is no playability if you don't even need to cheat to have a rich sim/happy sim/a good relationships/attraction/etc

I totally agree - burglars, firemen, repo man etc. were all adding unpredictability and variety to the game in other versions. Without them there really aren't any meaningful failures or consequences in the game, like not paying your bills for example.
Simburian
Seasoned Rookie
6 years ago
"amber_ilumire;c-17252596" wrote:
"Forgeron;c-17252345" wrote:
I don't understand how someone can have pleasure playing a game that's so easy. No fires, no burglar. I understand how Vlad showing up in every first gameplay night can bem annoying, vampires are supposed to be hard to find/become one, but realistic things?! I want my Sims to HAVE to wash their dishes, otherwise they would attract bugs and cockroaches. I want my sim tô be more careful/afraid to cook by themselves for the first time, otherwise they'll set the house on fire. I want the Unsavory Charlatan + Burglar tô make my gameplay harder. I want to have to wash their clothes, pra make their beds. Clean puddles. Etc. Etc. Sims 4 life IS to perfect, everything makes my sim happy, there is no reward in trying to make them feel pleasure, but its also Impossible for them to feel bad even If i wanted too. Like... This is why I mainly build/design Sims... I wanted to bad to play A GAME, but there is no playability if you don't even need to cheat to have a rich sim/happy sim/a good relationships/attraction/etc

I totally agree - burglars, firemen, repo man etc. were all adding unpredictability and variety to the game in other versions. Without them there really aren't any meaningful failures or consequences in the game, like not paying your bills for example.

Yes. Real Life is not easy and I don't admire a game where teenagers, who the game is aimed at, don't get any consequences for stupid actions, like not having a fire or burglar alarm and be able to magically make things better. I was always annoyed with myself when I got burgled in Sims 2 but it educated me to play better and avoid burglars in the future. Fires in this game can also be annoying and difficult to avoid. They last too long and everything else stops. The last barbecue fire I had set fire to the fence and slowly went all the way round with neighbour Sims walking past and taking no notice at all. We must get the fire brigade back.

The whole emphasis in the game was 'This is life. Deal with it' with all it's problems and there are consequences to what we do and we need to get back to that. Those 13 year olds in 2014 are 5 years older now Maxis.
DeKaythePUNK
Rising Vanguard
6 years ago
I kinda miss them but at the same, I don't see the point of them in my game, personally. Cuz whenever there's a burglary, I just buy back the item or beat the poop of the burglar. At the end of day, nothing much changes. ?‍♀️
Babykittyjade
Rising Observer
6 years ago
I want them back!! Free the babies and let us get robbed! It's just another detail that brings the game to life. Like I always say, it's the little details that are precious and memorable not the big flashy stuff.
MissIcewolf
Seasoned Traveler
6 years ago
I need them! I miss them so much. I miss having more negative events in The Sims 4. The game feels too safe at the moment, like to not trigger any people
SilentK008
Seasoned Newcomer
6 years ago
Hmm...

I have got zero interest in Bonehilda, Claire the Bear or any other set npc. I have already got Father Winter and that is enough. I just want to make my own sims and have them in my world.

At least I can use MCCC so that Grim does not start walking around the neighborhood.

Hard pass on set npc’s but firefighters could be fun.