Apex Legends: Suggestions to buff Caustic

Agree on most points. And I would basically suggest the same things. The traps should be able to be placed on walls and ceilings. There should be some sort of poison effect after entering the cloud but not sure how much. A dot damage that deals 10 in total? that would mean that caustics minimum damage would be 10 when an enemie enters triggers it. Should however not stack. Teammates having vision through his smoke sounds kinda op because when caustic has his vision he is in such an advantage. Nobody can see you well and he can see everyone outlined in green I mean it is pretty strong once you get your opponents in the traps atleast. His ult is already pretty ok for what it is so thats fine if they dont touch it. I don't think they should be smaller tho, I hide them around rocks and corners whenever I dont place them inside and it works quite well. They also work as a sort of intimidation technique because of their size. They let enemies know not to go somewhere if they're place out in the open and this can lead to you gaining some safe distance from your enemies. All in all he isn't trash but def not as versatile as the other heroes. Not given the versatility issue a thought yet but for now a dot dmg and sticky traps sound like a good start. Perhaps a way of linking several traps together for a chain explosion? Maybe the traps could deal an initial explosive hit to players really close to the traps? Whatever they do I hope they do something! As for the arrows pointing toward activated traps suggestion, at the moment  you can simply look at your traps through a wall and see where they've been activated and if someone is in your gass you see how much dmg they are taking! 🙂

I agree that caustic needs a buff, but here's what I think makes more sense balance wise. Caustic's vision should remain solely his, however players who enter the gas are slowed. Players who walk into the cloud take 30 damage over 10 seconds. Stacks up to as many traps as have been triggered or walked through. OR just keep the gas the same, make the cloud cover more area and increase the damage in the gas with the slow and vision. I personally like the first idea more though because it reminds me of teemo in league of legends with his exploding poison mushrooms. 🤗

Oh, and as for mirage, his fix is really easy. His ultimate just needs 3 adjustments.

1. Make him completely invisible for the duration of his ultimate so players can't see an outline at all except for counters such as digital threat and bloodhound ult.

2. Make the clones from his ultimate actually run in random directions instead of standing still. This will actually allow mirage to slip out easier and confuse the enemy.

3. Allow for mirage to break his stealth in the ultimate early by firing his guns or landing a melee on an enemy. This makes him more versatile and feel more like a trickster.

I played caustic A LOT. I don't disagree with the OP's suggestions per se, I just think they are unlikely to be implemented. My thought, the simplest to implement, is just to increase the damage by the traps quite a lot, I don't have a specific number though. 

Here's my thinking. When you select a class, you might say to yourself, who's the best?

No one will say caustic at the moment. Most people will say wraith, bangalore, lifeline. Maybe mirage, but the point is, there will be debate, pros and *.

Caustic just sucks (but he's fun and that's why I play him).

People might say increasing the damage of the traps will make them OP... but what does that mean in actual terms? It means people might actually play with him. It means instead of just deciding between wraith, banga, lifeline, you might decide between all the characters because they are all equal in different ways. Right now, they are not.

Trap damage is my opinion. Wraith's passive and active abilities might seem incidental or small but they are not. They are so powerful that I keep using that class again and again, because they are awesome. Subtle, but awesome.

To compensate for the trap damage being upped I would limit traps to 3, but I would definitely stack the damage (so take that into account in the dmg amount). People would at first complain that he's OP, but so use him then! But they won't use him more than the others, because finally he'd be closer to the same level. imo.

Right now there are the play to win characters and play to have fun characters. Maybe that's right formula, so u don't burnout trying to win win win. I don't know.

His gas doesn't do enough damage. As it is now, other players can just run through it without worry since it does so little damage. This negates its purpose which is to cut off areas.
I think just a damage buff for his abilities would balance him out pretty well.

I feel he could use a buff/rework.

kinda sits with a few mindsets.

team game- so his skills should support his team better

majority of the game is heading for the next circle in open areas - so his best time to shine only happens some of the time

overall the gas needs some sort of buff - mines deploy too slow, don't do enough damage or stun.i think the size of the gas is alright but maybe there is something to be played with here as well. as it stands right now you could have a house setup with gas, and you can still just have a squad rush in with shotguns and ignore the traps. in any aggressive moments you are pretty much wasting time trying to throw traps down because of the arming time.

saying its a team game, then the defense characters should be defense for the team - feel like there should be less harm done to teammates by proxy of the gas. keep the blur effect but remove the slow. make your teams mines look distinguishable from some other random caustic's mines.

nox vision is pretty lame - lets say we rework nox gas so its a DoT. some one who steps in the gas gets hit with a DoT that does damage per tick that goes on for lets say 5-10 seconds. this would be a buff to the damage/ deterrent to wanting to just run though the traps. it would make the passive more useful as people still effected by the gas would stay highlighted longer. 

lets flip the tables- lets say instead of a buff per say, he gets a rework on his tools.

what if you swap his ultimate with his quick skill.

this pretty much changes caustic into a more balanced  character for all situations. being able to throw gas grenades more often means his skills are more suited for combat and less about looking for a place to setup and hoping it pays off.  his ultimate would be the payoff for reaching end game, finding a house and setting up camp. hard to say on how much of how many you would do for this.

lets say :
size of grenade gas smoke reduced  so its not so much an ULT and more like a quick skill

can only throw one grenade at a time [ maybe 2, this really depends on how the cool down works, or how well you make the gas work]

nox gas does DoT so the gas is meant to tag people and boost his passive

give his ULT like fewer traps [2, maybe even just 1] but increase the size of the chance to set them off and size of the gas- pretty much remove being able to lock down and entire house- make it so he can block like one entrance or side of a house.

also hitboxes. not sure what could be done about this, but there is a clear disadvantage of having a giant hit box and zero escape tools.

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Yes, the fix should be:

1)Gas damage turned into a DoT that resets and lengthen it's duration every second spent inside of a gas cloud (min: 5sec, max: 10sec). Damage also ramps up overtime like it currently does with the longer you stay inside of a gas cloud. 

2)Slow and vision blurring effect last as long as you are still affected by the DoT.  

3)As long as you are affected by the DoT, Caustic has his "Nox vision" on you like he currently has when somebody is under the effect of his trap (yellow version of bloodhound's ult).

4)Traps should only be deactivated by grenades, not simply shooting at the base. At least that or the CD SIGNIFICANTLY reduced (At the moment, unless you have a building to use as cover to hide your traps, they are useless and easy to deactivate in the open).  

5)Allies aren't affected (slowed/blurred vision) anymore (right now nobody enjoys fighting with him as a teamate because they are affected as well). 

6)His traps need an AoE increase. A little buff horizontally but mainly also vertically (a trap should gas the floor underneath and above as well). 

7)His grenade needs a severe buff to it's horizontal and vertical AoE. For an ult, it barely covers one story of a building and it has a ridiculous 3min and 20sec cooldown (about 2 sec to get 1% recharge). It's really pathetic. 

His gas have to aply DOT, kinda like Thermite does and poisoned enemies should give him full benefits of it.
His Ultimate need lower CD - it's just close range small area denial grenade, with it's usability and effectivenes combined with recharge time it's useless most of the time in comparison to Bloodhound's / Pathfinder's / Lifeline's.

Maybe it should not affect his allies too, but I am fine with it as long as the gas does it's purpose - deny enemy to walk in or suffer consequences.

I think the only adjustment necessary is to his passive. He should be able to see through his gas at all times. As is, he can only see enemies within the gas AoE. 

An example: He is within the Nox Gas AoE but enemies are not. He should see them highlighted green while he is within the gas. 

Another example: In open area, mid/long range, the Nox Grenade is thrown between Caustic and the enemy, but both parties are just outside the AoE. He should see them so long as his line of sight travels through the gas.