Party and Aspiration Goals Require Non-Vegetarian Meals From Vegetarian Sims

This is a really good point. I've noticed this too. If my Vegetarian Sim has hit Call to Meal at a dinner party on meat based dishes I quickly cancel the action for them to eat a plate of meat based food themselves while the guests eat it. I do the same when they have to roast beetles on a campfire for the Outdoor Enthusiast Aspiration, I try and quickly cancel the action before they eat a barbecued bug in fact I do this anyway whether they eat food with a face or if they don't. I mean, it's bugs so ick, why would you?

So it would be good if these aspirations were amended for meat free Sims.

I also notice when getting food together at festivals, like the Spice Festival where you get food from the buffet table Vegetarian friends eat the meat dishes and become unwell.

On the point of Vegan Sims, you can still create them but without giving them the official trait. I set myself the challenge of creating a Freegan Vegan Sim on a Simple Living lot. He started his farm from produce he'd harvested or found by collecting. He started out as a Plantsim. He has a little bee rescue and cares for them without taking their products. It made an enjoyable challenge but I had to keep reminding myself he was a Vegan without the trait to remind me.

@simsplayer818Yeah I cancel them too when I have to make them (I don't do call to meal on them either, I try to make them and throw them away and then make a vegetarian meal for the sims to actually eat at the party), though sometimes I don't get it in time, like with the beetles.

Even if you are not required to actually eat them though, in my opinion it's still missing the point if vegetarian sims are required to make those meals to begin with. In many (possibly most) cases people are vegetarian because it's against their ideology to harm animals like that and that for many people applies to paying for it and making it too, not just eating it (for example in my home in real life there is no way in the world meat will even enter the house, no matter who the guests are), but on sims even if everyone in the household are set to vegetarian, they are still forced to cook animals or else they can't get gold at the party/can't finish the aspiration.
I think this could very easily be solved if the requirement was just changed to allow the alternatives too, since all of the meat meals required in those parties seem to already have plant based versions too from what I've seen, but when I tried those they didn't complete the goal.

Also yeah if you watch out every time they eat you can make sure they stay vegan, I always tried to do that with my sims before they added the vegetarian trait, though what I really like about the trait is that they can also be trusted to make food on their own and they still won't eat meat, while if you do it manually without the trait you can't trust them to pick their own meals.

A vegan sim to play is ... not easy. I tried it and gave my sims vegetarian and lactose intolerant trait but this are two traits for a lifestyle/dietary. I remember the one time which I visit one of my vegan sim and she goes straight to the fridge and grabbed a dish with cheese/milk in it. After this I had enough. I don’t sacrifice two traits’ slots just because they still grab things which they don’t should! She became a vampire and life now from plasmafruit and the blood of her soulmate which is a vampire too (I use a mod for it).

I just pretend all meat dishes are vegan and all animals are happy in sims4, no factory farming allowed + All fish are plastic fish, so somebody need to take care of this filthy things. Generally, I think the team forget often that we have a vegetarian trait. In snowy escape we don’t have one dishes which is vegetarian safe for the hot pot. Its much easier just to pretend all is vegan/vegetarian friendly.

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@SleepyMaya @simsplayer818 @daikoyu and anyone else seeing this issue, could you provide a bit more information?  For example, what events other than the weenie roast are affected?  Is the vegetarian sim the host, or is a non-vegetarian sim hosting, and in either case, is the host doing the cooking?

Even if the party goal lists a meat dish, does the goal complete when a sim makes the vegetarian equivalent?  If not, please have your sim try making the meat dish just in case the task isn't completing for some other reason; you don't need to save your progress.

I test the weenie roast event with a vegetarian/non vegetarian sim in a vanilla game and can confirm that tofu-hotdog count as goal (grilling and campfire). Was the campfire always so terrible in a vanilla game? This thing caused 3 fires in one event!

I only can confirm @simsplayer818 statement that sims ignore they food/allergies preference sometime in spice-event. After my *vegan* sim issue I never used this both traits again for my played sims. Generally, two traits slot are too much sacrifice with only 3 slots per sim available.  I really wish they would give is a food dislike/like category. Would make things so much easier... as long they ignore food which they do not like.

Btw: the default recipe of marshmallow is not vegetarian safe because most use gelatine, so it doesn’t make any difference if it beetles of marshmallow, both are dishes who use ingredients from animals (a dead animal) and so not suitable for vegetarian sims

I'm not sure how the veggie hot dog counted towards the goal for daikoyu on weenie roast, but I tested it and it 100% DIDN'T count towards the goal for me, I was forced to cook the meat ones, that's the main thing that got me to write this post to begin with. Maybe it's related to the outdoor expansion I have? Otherwise I'm not sure but it didn't count the veggie one and it did count the meat one, so the game was working but only for the meat dishes.

As for the other events these requirements were on, I can't recall them all specifically because I already maxed the aspiration with the many party requirements which is where I noticed it, I did a lot of parties in a row for the aspiration on two sims and kept switching between party types so it's hard to remember all of the specifics, but at the very least there was one that required me to cook some chicken dish (can't remember which but it had the word chicken in it) and one that required a casserole. For both of those I tried the vegetarian option first and it DIDN'T count towards the goal, so I was then forced to do the meat one or not get gold. There might have been another case with a lobster dish but I can't remember for sure. I can confirm that in all of those, cooking that meat dish DID count towards the goal, only the vegetarian ones didn't.

At least one case where it happened was the black and white party (I remember that because I was confused why it counts as black and white lol), not sure about the others. It wasn't the main goal so it's not a requirement that is always there (except for the weenie roast case where it is the main goal), so if I did the same party multiple times it wouldn't have the meat requirements on all cases, it's kind of random, but it is there sometimes.

All of my sims are vegetarian and I don't hire other sims to cook, so both the host and the people cooking were always vegetarian and were still required for it.

Also I'll respectfully disagree with daikoyu that there is no difference between beetles and marshmallow, in my opinion there is a huge difference between the two. Marshmallow contains gelatine in most common recipes, that's true, but there are still a lot of recipes where it's 100% vegan and those are still titled the exact same name, "marshmallow" (kinda similar to gummy candy). I know at least a few brands of it where it's pretty much regular marshmallow just without gelatine and marked vegan, it's not the most common but it's not too uncommon either, at least where I live and on multiple countries I got to visit. In the sims we don't get to see a full ingredients list for each dish, so it could easily be treated as either vegan/vegetarian or not, there wouldn't be much difference in terms of the game cause we don't know the exact recipe sims are using for it and in both cases the meal would have an identical name and just be called "marshmallow", so really we could see it how we want to. Beetles however can't be treated as vegetarian ever, they are always 100% animal made, even if you can't read an "ingredients list". So in my opinion I don't think this is really the same, one is at least sometimes vegan and suitable, while the other is always animal made and never suitable.

@SleepyMaya  I'm curious about the discrepancy too.  Do you use any mods?  If so, please test without them; you can use a new save if you want.

If you don't use mods, or removing them doesn't make a diffrence, please list the packs you currently have installed.  Please also test in a new save, for comparison's sake.